Board Thread:Supergirl discussions/@comment-807326-20170207011659/@comment-27700324-20170209035936

Kir the Wizard wrote:

Nobody700 wrote: Nice to know someone besides me read that. It really goes to show for all of Lex's speeches, and motives... he's just a fucked up piece of shit who blows up schools and frames someone just to make Supes look bad. Both the Azarello books are nice graphically and have powerful monologues, but the overall plot is outright creepy. "Azarello's Joker" was originally going to be called "Joker: The Dark Knight" to mirror "Lex Luthor: Man of Steel", but because it already had a lot of things that would make the reader confuse it with Nolanverse (like Joker's design) it was dropped.

But, anyway, both books really eat at your sense of morals and heroics.

"Joker" shows that, for all the fights Batman gives to the Joker, he can't save everyone and everything. And the normal people are pretty much at the mercy of the depraved lunatic, as even the Asylum releases him as "sane". Also, he can't stop calling Oswald "Abner" for some reason.

"Luthor" shows that you don't even have heroes to hope for. Lex Luthor is a man that inspires hope and obedience, except he secretly tries to sacrifice all those lives of people who trusted him JUST to make Superman look bad before the press (I mean, destroying an orphanage to frame Winn, to frame Superman when he tries to save the now-maligned Winn from falling to his death, while also killing the robot girl that was fighting Superman to also frame Superman, MAN). And then, Superman is INDEED a power-hungry jerk, who beats up Batman half to death, for daring to have a weapon against him (he'd be the villain, if Lex wasn't even worse with his crazy scheme). And finally, even Batman decides to work with Luthor, whom he does not trust, after Superman beats him up.

Wow. I'm happy those stories are Elseworlds, because it'd be fucking disgusting to have Tyrant Superman, Angsty Terrorist Luthor, and Luthor's Pal Batman. Actually it is now canon that Lex Luthor is a good guy. That last one may be true.