Board Thread:The Flash discussions/@comment-9346948-20161123011226/@comment-24476516-20161124160645

Kir the Wizard wrote:

Kaestal wrote: Yeah true, but the only two examples I can think of (out of the four) are Professor Zoom and... Zoom.

Eobard could later be explained as being faster only because his speed force - is influencing the + Speed Force users in a bad way, making them slower.

Zoom manipulates his personal flow of time, unfair plz nerf.

And that was a far more experienced Eobard vs a Mach 1.5 (At best) Flash, Oliver Queen (A human despite everything) and a Firestorm who really doesn't know how to be Firestorm.

I'm imagining that Eobard's full potential will be equal to Barry's, limitless speed, as in the comics their raw speed should hypothetically be the same as they both generate Speed Force, positive or negative. Well, in the comics Eobard actually started as a novice in speedster abilities compared to Barry. He grew in time and relied on his futuristic gadget (as well as... mind control abilities, of all things) to get an edge. It was not before 2000s and his creation of the "Negative Speed Force" that Eobard became much faster than Barry. Eobard's main thing was his creativeness, as well as the whole "kick the Flash where it's painful".

Although, in Wally's first encounter with Eobard (who thought he was Barry) the time-traveler was faster, by the time Wally grew into the role of the Flash, he was so superb that he NEEDED someone like Zolomon to try to top him.

In the show, I think it's established that Eobard in his prime was much stronger than even Wellsobard. Heck, I think someone on LoT realized it last week.

Wellsobard's whole plan was based on him running low on Speed Force. It's why he needed the wheelchair and the tachyon device to keep his powers at least somewhat functional