User talk:Wraiyf/Archive 4

Hey, about the talk we kinda had a few weeks ago.
(this is going to make me sound like I really, really want to put in the Conway Prize thing, but it is more than that.) (I've seen other users who are adamant on fighting their cases been somewhat seen as pesterizing; I have a feeling this post will be categorized as the same, but I hope you understand I'm just genuinely confused and would like to get answers instead of assuming. I do not enjoy nor will I ever intentionally piss people off.)

So yeah, on several pages I viewed, there's just a lot of stuff being written with "possibly", "probably", "may be", "could be", "likely", "seemingly", etc. and without references to prove the statements are true. If they are indeed confirmed by the show-owners, wouldn't it be best to remove those wording that made them look like pure speculation? The reason I didn't do it myself is, well, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE TRUE OR NOT.

Examples (I'm just gonna skip all the ones with 52 in it, THAT I don't think need further explanation) :
 * McKenna Hall is possibly named after a character from Batman comics, Melody McKenna of the Gotham City Police Department, who also has a similar dislike for vigilantes.
 * Science Showcase is likely a reference to Showcase #4, which had the first appearance of Barry Allen.
 * Given the ending of the episode, implying Harrison Wells' ability to time travel, his name is seemingly a reference to H.G. Wells, the author of The Time Machine.
 * At S.T.A.R. Labs, Cisco built a treadmill designed to handle Barry's speed. It is possibly a tongue-in-cheek reference to the Cosmic Treadmill from the original comics.
 * Hex's Gun Shop is probably a reference to Jonah Hex, a hero that uses guns.
 * Cisco mentions to Joe the possibility of two speedsters the night Nora Allen was murdered. This could be a possible reference to the existence of other Flashes in the DC multiverse.
 * The reference to two speedsters is likely also a reference to the comic book series Flashpoint, where Barry went back in time using the Speed Force and stopped Reverse Flash from murdering his mother, which shattered history and changed the DC universe (leading to The New 52).

I mean, yes, ALL of them sound very likely and possible, but there's still the fact that whoever added them didn't leave reference therefore making them sound like speculations, even though very believable ones. I just want to understand if all those listed above do meet the standard of this wikia, and if they do, why wouldn't the Conway Prize be seen as the same case? Today, if it were just another random DC writer that has little to nothing to do with the characters, then yeah, THAT WOULD BE FARFETCHED to try to link the said writer to the Prize (and I wouldn't even bring it up in the first place); but Gerry Conway isn't another random DC writer, and one of the characters he co-created won a prize that shared the same name with him? I don't get why this is any less possible than any of the above that it couldn't be accepted.

Going back to the reply you gave me earlier ("until it's confirmed by Greg Berlanti etc. then we can't really accept it.") To me, the only thing that makes sense for keeping all of the above, is that they are indeed all confirmed; if so, am I allowed to edit out all the not-so-sure-ish type of words? Afterall, if they are in fact confirmed, there would be no need of those words.

S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 18:19, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Renaming Of Wikia Page
I think DC Vigilanteverse will be suitable, taking to the theme that they are not easily accepted as Heroes of their respective cities and initially acted as Vigilantes. I do like to hear your opinions and about the shows you were referring to when denyig this name.

When i uploaded an image to the Katsu Cheng article, to the Template:Character, something went wrong with the upload, the image is not being displayed on Katsu Cheng's Template:Character, so do you think you can fix this problem, Thank you.Saori-1 (talk) 21:08, March 18, 2015 (UTC) .

Once the new shows come out then I think the name has to be changed and DC Vigilanteverse or DC Legends would be good names.Kendroche (talk) 10:58, August 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * We're having a wiki-wide vote here on a name. —MakeShift (talk page) 11:16, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Protection
Gotcha. PS I have a question. Where does it say Nyssa's last name is Nyssa Raatko? Cause I'm thinking of renaming it and taking out the alter ego part since I don't have a last name for Nyssa and want a credible source.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 21:04, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't rename it. It says get an admin and here's a hint. I'm talking to one ;).Cloudtheavenger (talk) 03:31, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

What height, width and quality must images be when uploaded from the online comic book series; Arrow (comic book series), Arrow: Season 2.5 and The Flash: Season Zero, think you.Saori-1 (talk) 16:46, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

Rewriting policies
We're about to in a bit, so if you can, join IRC channel so we can link you. 06:34, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Inquiry about preferred images
Hi there! I'm asking this because I want to grasp a better understanding so that in the future my uploads can be more on par with what this wiki is looking for.

http://arrow.wikia.com/index.php?title=A.T.O.M._Exosuit&diff=87685&oldid=87654

I'm confused as to why the current image is preferred, (just to be clear, I don't think it's a bad picture at all, I just don't understand why it is deemed more fit to represent the page) as I thought the article is about the suit, and I felt the other image at least shows the suit from head to toe and is without the distraction of characters... whereas the one that is currently used not only has characters in it (in my understanding, not the focus of the article), but also does not show the suit fully. I'm just genuinely curious about the reason behind the preferences, and I hope to understand it so I can avoid uploading stuff that's not preferred.

Right now I honestly cannot fathom why; the only reason I can think of is because it is cropped? I made sure the act itself is allowed on this wiki for it is written in the policy that:
 * if the character or whatever it may be only takes up a small, relatively unimportant part of the image, then it's smarter to simply crop it to focus on them.

And even if that's really is the issue (which I hope not), I did first upload an uncropped version of it... so I'm lost. (Um, so yeah, I mean no disrespect; I'm only asking this so I can avoid repeating the action that turned out to be unnecessary; hope to hear from you soon!) =D

S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 04:02, April 16, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the explanation! I didn't know the crop is only done unless there's no choice, so it's enlightening. But just to clarify it, even the uncropped version is, as of now, not necessary, because the suit is WIP anyways, correct?http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150415235556/arrow/images/archive/a/a2/20150415235742%21Full_view_of_the_A.T.O.M._Exosuit.png So if it's something that's clearly still being modified, don't worry about it? You don't have to answer this right away! (I don't want to get you fired or anything D: it's not THAT dire in need of reply) But yeah thanks for the respond! I'll avoid cropping from now on! =] S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:17, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

PLLfan999
The user mentioned in the headline is harassing me on this and multiple wikis. While what he said on here isn't as bad(http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Fearless_Diva?diff=prev&oldid=87760), he hasn't stopped. Just look at the stuff he's sent me on the Winx Club Wiki:(http://winx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/PLLfan999), Ravenswood Wiki: (http://ravenswood.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/PLLfan999), Teen Wolf Wiki: (http://teenwolf.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:142637), Tomorrow People Wiki:(http://the-tomorrow-people.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/PLLfan999) and my own fanfiction wiki:(http://fearlessdivaproductions.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/PLLfan999). All because he was blocked on the PLL Wiki by a fellow admin for vandalizing pages and saying vulgar comments:(http://pretty-little-liars.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/PLLfan999) and to make matters worse, he also made a duplicate account to get back into the PLL Wiki:(http://pretty-little-liars.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eclare%26Drianca). IDK how but he's targeting all the wikis I have visited in the past. The reason I don't know how he/she is doing this is due to the fact that I hide the wikis I have visited. I have already reported the user to wikia with the proof I have shown you.... Is there anyway that you can at least block him on here so that he/she won't bother me on this wiki? Fearless Diva 06:08, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

hi,

uhm u undo my power outage plot and noted it was wrong?

why?

so u mean its not wrong. but grammar is wrong lol. -.-

some of the plot posts are like that. i do read all of the plot. i read as i watch. 2 monitors.

edited but suck at it
well, i edit much of the stuff after reading it already. if its still bad for u guys then its alright then i give up. Some of the plot i read also did not had proper sentances at some part but passes anyway. anyway its fine. i just wait for ppl to update the plot then. i wanna read the plot but many episodes are missing. sadly.

thanks

Return of the anon vandals
http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:151.224.85.147 just messed with the Damien Darkh page. A warning, or ban, perhaps? 14:27, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Yo, I'm actually here, come back if you can :P 21:23, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

RE: MIA Notice
All good, man, take your time! It's obviously out of your hands, so just edit when you can! —MakeShift (talk page) 09:49, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Welcome back
Just happened to be on Recent changes when I saw your post on MS' wall so thought I'd welcome you back :p. Also, could you hop onto IRC real quick? 08:39, August 1, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Sara
Sorry. I have combined ADHD so I'm attentive, which is relevant to the topic at hand. Plus my brain is deep fried from a busy semester.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 17:15, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Harrison Wells' Talkpage
I think you forgot to move the talk page to Eobard Thawne as well when you guys moved Harrison Wells to Eobard Thawne. I'll be happy to just cut/paste it, but I wanted make sure it's fine before I do something like that.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 14:13, September 29, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Poll//Crashed
Haha it's all good, TimeShade reminded me in the end and I got to it, figured it should be done ASAP! —MakeShift (talk page) 11:32, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Just saying Hi
Hi. I'm new to the arrowverse and arrowverse wiki. I don't get the CW and only just discovered the show online. I'm a longtime contributor of the Criminal Minds wiki so I'm a bit familiar with the format and how it works. I used to read quite a few of the DC comics although I was unable to get them for several years and it got too convoluted for me. I'm enjoying Arrow and The Flash thus far. Anyway, I wanted to say "Hi" and hope that I will have something useful to contribute in the future.Suceress (talk) 22:31, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

RE:IRC
Wikia disabled the use of verbatim tags a while ago. Gotta use the actual link now. 19:05, November 14, 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I just wanted to ask you if you know the top speed of Barry Allen?

Hey just a little thing that is bugging me. I see that in addition to a page for Carter Hall/Hawkman there is also a seperate page for Khufu to that end, shouldn't there be a seperate page for Chay-ara in addition to Kendra's page??? Also, I am not sure if anyone else noticed this but in Legends of Yesterday, Chay-ara mentioned the name Hath-set so does that mean that Vandal Savage's true name is Hath-set??? if that is the case then shouldnt we add that info to Vandal's page??? just something that I was thinking about is all.Kguziak (talk) 19:34, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

So for my page, Earth-2 meta-humans, do you want me to add the other meta humans?

So for my page, Earth-2 meta-humans, do you want me to add the other meta humans?Decapitare 14:50, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Diggle Identity
They've actually called him "Spartan" in the show, not "Guardian". In "Lost Souls", when they have Lance working with them, they use it cause they've got a guest. —MakeShift (talk page) 05:24, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

Hey not a problem...it is fun getting to read these wikia's and loved editting it. It is just that i have been hooked up with the Flash. This show is amazing. I recently finished Season 1 and i'm on to season 2 right now. Ijust missed Eddie's character and I saw his name was not mentioned in the Starring list, just saw an opportunity to edit it so i did. So ...oh yeah one more thing can you please update the background theme of the wikia it seemsto be animated and not so appropriate like according to me, its your wish but can you guys update it if possible.

Thank You.Elena salvatorre01 (talk) 09:09, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

Vixen
Aha, looks like we uploaded at the same time! 20:31, January 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright, mind adding that image to a season page? I'm currently rendering that image and adding this version to the background. Cartoon is so out of place. 20:35, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

RE:IRC or Wiki Chat?
We still use #ArrowverseWiki for IRC. Are you using the right server? Maybe that's it? 19:29, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Zoom Pic
Glen Winter's son posted it. 06:26, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Good News
[http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:TimeShade#Good_News. 1]Cloudtheavenger (talk) 06:35, February 7, 2016 (UTC)

Should we rename the William page William Clayton, since he should have his mother's name as she never married.

New Wallpaper for website background
Hey there, I recently designed a potential new background for the wikia including most heroes of the DCTV universe. Would love to see it used in case you want to :)

- Mac



I've Recieved Your Message
Hey, I got your message! Thank you, and I hope to edit some more pages soon. I'm a big fan of Flash, Arrow and Dc.

RE:Images
Hi, I read the Image Policy, thank you.

But, I can't find and download Blood Rush in 720p or 1080p, so what do I need to do? Can you delete all the images and do the properly images job please? Thanks.

http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/File:Felicity_and_Roy_talking.png http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Roy_to_the_Rescue?file=Roy_talking_to_Felicity_masquerading_as_The_Arrow.png http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/File:Roy_finds_the_blood_samples_of_The_Arrow.png http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/File:Felicity_using_the_Code_Amber.png http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/File:The_binder_blocking_the_door.png http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/File:Felicity_introducing_herself_to_Roy.png

ArrowFan456 (talk) 18:10, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Scroll Template
Hey! Is there a number of appearances/mentioneds that is required before we use the Scroll Template? IHHeroes (talk) 19:33, February 25, 2016 (UTC)

Hey man,

just thought about a new idea for the main page: a main page in the style of the current site but instead of differencing by shows it'd difference in categories (Heroes, Villains, Allies/Friends/Family). Added to that all the images would be PNGs that (if you swipe over) reveal the heroes real identity.

I made a little conceptual design: (let me know if you want me to design the rest, I'd love to :D)

First it looks like that -

the once swiping over a heroes image it looks that way -

Character Portals
This is the same message I left on TimeShade's talk page: How did you guys achieve the rollover image effect on the Character Portals on the main page? I took a look at the code and it looks like it boils down a few css classes for each character that has a rollover image. But I checked out the css page and can't find those classes. Any help would be appreciated, I'm trying to accomplish the same effect on my Warriors of Virtue wikia (work in progress). Bryan Batcher (talk) 01:57, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Jefferson Jackson blanked
An anon wiped the page of all content - now restored. 14:08, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

can I change the photo for cisco and barry (Oliver icepower1 (talk) 04:56, March 28, 2016 (UTC))

Is it ok to make a user sub-page? I'm only making one for my personal signature.

00:32, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Flash changes
Im a huge fan of the flash so i went ahead and added some episode images, i will also re-write some bad writen parts in some chaacter bios, (zoom, barry e.t.c)

Hi. Just saying hello and also I'm a little hyper so expect a LOT of edits...

Chat
Hey man, when can you hop onto chat/IRC? Gotta share a link with you. 08:55, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Sara Lance gallery
Why are you removing the Canary picture from Sara Lance? Like other characters with multiple identities, she can have multiple pages of the gallery --Kir the Wizard (talk) 14:27, May 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * And where is that "rule" listed? Because I see that "we" have Eobard Thawne with both Wells and RF identities, Hunter Zolomon with both Flash and Zoom etc. This is incredibly arbitrary and makes no sense. I understand removing Al Sah-him, or Malcolm as Green Arrow, since those were pretty brief, and Oliver's Arrow costumes are all very similar, but Sara's spent a lot of time as both the Black and the White Canary, and it doesn't hurt anybody or anything to show her multiple alter-egos. --Kir the Wizard (talk) 08:40, May 18, 2016 (UTC)


 * Was this policy established somewhere on the site? --Kir the Wizard (talk) 10:23, May 18, 2016 (UTC)


 * Because without an official policy it is but an arbitrary decision to have some characters with multiple pictures, and others with only one. --Kir the Wizard (talk) 06:19, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

King Shark foto
Hey dude! I think this file is fandom picture. You can see above the logo of The Flash logo „Boss logic” ;) — Szynka 013 15:52, May 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem amigo, thanks! ^^ — Szynka 013 05:58, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Quote
I just thought that the quote should somehow be about the character, rather than by them. --Kir the Wizard (talk) 11:29, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

Excuse me
Can I ask you for something?AlexHoskins (talk) 14:50, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Hey
When you are not busy, could you send the PNG photo in the Heroes Wiki (hero.wikia.com)? I tried to do it myself, but couldn't because of my iPad problem. Sorry.AlexHoskins (talk) 15:11, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

Because it is opimitized and better looking.AlexHoskins (talk) 15:15, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

hi

Another one bites the dust
Gamingbeaster keeps deleting (not archiving) messages I leave on his talk page. Does this contravene policy on Arrowverse? If so, could you let him know, as my attempt will probably get scrubbed. 00:06, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

Gamingbeaster has deleted your 'please don't remove messages' and an exchange with another user. 06:42, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

Anomalies in story..
barry allen has time travelled before to save the city from tsunami or from vandal savage,at that time he never got a copy of himself,then how did he create a copy of himself in season 2?

Also,Barry Allen flash was present before eobard thawne went to kill barry's mother in present timeline....so will the story line of season 3 will be continuing from that timeline which eobard thawne changed by killing barry's mother....?

Hi, I noticed that a new page for Carla Tannhauser has been created and I was a little confused, I thought that you could not make sertain changes to an article until certain info is mentioned or confirmed??? For example, Eobard Thawne's page was called Harrison Wells up until his real name was mentioned on screen. So shouldn't Caitlin's mothers page stay named Caitlin Snow's mother until the name Carla Tannhauser is actually said in an episode??? just my thoughts as all.--WALES8450 20:06, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

Hey there, I did a potential background for this wikia in the vein of the recent LoT poster. In case you're interested (it's one side has the heroes and the other villains). You can test it out in the editor, trust me, it's looks pretty neat

- maccifer



Barry Allen
Dear Wraiyf this is sorokaj, and I'm writing you the request that the view source on the barry allen character page be changed back to edit, because I have Barry's actual birthday to add in, is there anyway for you or for anyone else to change this?sorokajSorokaj (talk) 02:01, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

Only a admin could do it not anyone else.--Typhuss999 (talk) 02:16, May 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * Other than myself, TimeShade, MakeShift and Hambergite can unlock this pages. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  10:18, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

Similarities
Hello. Haven't you around much but I noticed you're from Australia and like Anime like Noragami. I'm from Australia too (Adelaide) and I do like Noragami (Yato is so funny) too. Unfortunately, the manga hasn't been updated since March. What other anime do you like? Chinkycandie (talk) 22:54, November 13, 2017 (UTC)

Damien Darhk not an anachronism?
You removed Damien Darhk from anachronisms saying he wasn't one. He definitely was. His corpse was time-displaced. Also, how could the Order of the Shrouded Compass bringing him back be an anachronism. That would be an aberration. JS0662 (talk) 17:11, November 23, 2017 (UTC)

I don't think you're fully understanding what an anachronism is. It's something that's been time-displaced. Simple as that. Nora taking the blood from others would be considered an aberration since it was creating something in history that wasn't previously there. What do you mean by "If he were still an anachronism, everywhere he goes would change history in some way."? This makes no sense. Him time traveling can create aberrations, or changes to history. His time displaced corpse was an anachronism, yes, and his resurrection makes him an aberration as he is not supposed to be alive. He's an aberration not because his death never happened, but because his resurrection '''did. '''Also, we have no idea what Mallus is. According to Rip's description, it does not sound like he is an anachronism. JS0662 (talk) 22:19, November 23, 2017 (UTC)

An anachronism isn't just something in the wrong time period. It's something that was time-displaced due to the breaking of time. We don't know what Mallus is. But, he's not an aberration, since he exists across all of time. JS0662 (talk) 02:07, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

There's so much we don't know about Mallus, so we can't really consider him an aberration yet. But, trying to get back to the main TOC, Damien Darhk was still time-displaced, which by your own description, makes him an anachronism. JS0662 (talk) 19:11, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

I mean, ok. I'm not going to try to argue with admins. Been there, done that. Personally, I think that you all didn't watch the episode closely enough because that seemed really obvious to me. JS0662 (talk) 14:45, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

First of the Fallen
Are you sure we should rename First of the Fallen? Satan could be considered his name, and the Devil his main title, but "First of the Fallen" is that he's usually called by "knowledgeable" characters in Constantine, and his main name in the comics. Considering "Satan" may also be more of a title than a true name (as it means "The Adversary"), all we have is titles, and "First of the Fallen" is the most important as far as the comics are concerned. Respectfully, --Kir the Wizard (talk) 21:46, November 23, 2017 (UTC)

Strongly agree. Should be reverted to First of the Fallen JS0662 (talk) 22:13, November 23, 2017 (UTC)

Hi thanks for your message I tried to edited Felicity Smoak to Queen but Typhuss999 kept editing it and now I can't edit can you please help and change it. Klarolinebaby (talk) 16:45, November 23, 2017 (UTC)

I am trying to edit the personality sections for Vigilante and Reign, but it's not letting me. Every time I try, a "no"/crossed out symbol appears and I can't do anything to alter either personality section. How do I get past this to edit their personalities? Overseer80 (talk) 03:14, December 17, 2017 (UTC)

 With regards to the Main Antagonists page that I was working on that got deleted:



 I know there's a category for main antagonists, but the category only provides basic information (like the names and pictures) as to the villains of the whole Arrowverse. I thought there could be a dedicated page breaking down the villains by season and the story arc of each season along with it.



 For reference as to what I wanted to do, check out this page in the Smallville wiki that I was modelling my page off of:



 <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:400;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Main_antagonists …

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:400;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">Even Gossip Girl has something similar. It doesn't go into story arcs, but still:

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;font-weight:400;white-space:pre-wrap;">http://gossipgirl.wikia.com/wiki/Primary_Antagonists …

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> It's just a very useful type of page that'll outline the villains of each season and allows people to check back to see what happened on prevoius seasons.

That last message about the main antagonists page was from me: UdyK (talk) 13:00, December 25, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to answer your message, I'm new to this part of the wiki. I see your point with Jay Garrick and Henry Allen, however they're played by different actors. With dopplegangers being played by the same actor, isn't the assumption that the name is the same? I'm confused as to why his page is titled as "Sturmbannführer" while his dead, never seen daughter, has a page titled "Sara Lance's Earth-X doppelgänger". Shouldn't his at least be titled "Quentin Lance's Earth-X doppelgänger"?

Thanks

Earth Prime Archivist - recording the Multiverse history (talk) 10:52, December 26, 2017 (UTC)

I have a question about something I read on Earth-1 Oliver Queen's page as well as Nyssa al Ghul's page. Under family on his page it says "Nyssa al Ghul (wife; legally invalid) and at the top of his bio it says "the legally invalid husband of Nyssa al Ghul". Her page has "Oliver Queen (husband; legally invalid). There's never been anything on Arrow to say that the marriage is invalid. Nyssa calls him her husband, indicating she thinks it's valid.

On Nyssa's page, this entry is under personality:

Despite being forced into their marriage, she still acknowledges Oliver as her husband, even though she does not love him like one, implying that she still commits to vows. This seems to be in an effort to embarrass Oliver as she even told Slade Wilson about their marital status, causing Slade to question Oliver's love life.

at the bottom under trivia are these two entries: <p style="line-height:inherit;">Given that the wiki entries are supposed to have only what's been on screen, there's no way to know if the marriage is invalid or not. Granted, the show's writers are completely ignoring it, however, that doesn't mean the marriage isn't perfectly legal and valid. At the very least, the entires should be "possibly invalid".
 * After being forced to marry Oliver Queen by Ra's al Ghul, she has often referred to him as her husband, acknowledging their marriage beyond formal necessities and even going so far to call Thea her sister-in-law. However, Oliver has only claimed her as his wife once or twice during important ceremonies. Even after the League of Assassins was disbanded, Nyssa still refers to Oliver as husband when they next see each other.
 * Despite not being together, Nyssa and Oliver are still married under the League of Assassins law however there's debates about this seeing as their marriage is listed as legally invalid. However, in "Missing", Nyssa still refers to Oliver as her husband; implying that there marriage is legal, despite the league being disbanded.

<p style="line-height:inherit;">Please let me know what you think.

<p style="line-height:inherit;">Thx

<p style="line-height:inherit;">Earth Prime Archivist - recording the Multiverse history (talk) 13:27, December 26, 2017 (UTC) EPA

<p style="line-height:inherit;">The fact that Oliver can propose to Felicity and marry her, pretty much proves that the marriage with Nyssa was invalid. And he even said in 4x13 "In the eyes of the League of Assassins, this woman is my wife", which means the marriage is not legal.Ninja72 (talk) 22:27, December 28, 2017 (UTC)