User talk:Cloudtheavenger/Archive 1

Welcome
Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the Isabel Rochev page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! MakeShift (talk) 21:56, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Editing.
When editing, please do all your edits for one article at once, it's annoying seeing you constantly take out sections, then re add them in another section in different edits, myself and MakeShift discussed warning you a while ago, but then you went MIA, so we didn't bother, so if you're going to remove content for reasons like "belongs in plot" etc. then do it all at once instead of multiple edits. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  09:02, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Trivia can also include notes and such, one thing you removed is a note that references what another character does in the comics as deadshot does in the show, therefor it's trivia.  Time  Shade " First things first, but not necessarily in that order." - The Fourth Doctor  00:32, March 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * After going over your edits, and your summaries for edits, it sounds like you need to take a leaf from your own book so that you know what IS trivia, and what isn't. If you do one more junk edit like what you've been doing lately, you will be blocked for 1 week, and if your edits continue on the same path, after being blocked, you may be blocked for longer periods of time. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  00:45, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

Undo edit
Don't get defensive when someone undo's your edit. Note that the person who did that is a VSTF and was just helping out clean out the redundant category, his intention wasn't to remove that content. 23:19, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Wasn't being defensive I don't like reverse editing without an explanation. Also I've been getting complaints that I do section by section editing instead of the entire page at once and it's annoying Waiyf. My reason is because I'm mostly on the Naruto Wikia which has huge pages so it's more efficient to do section by section on there so it's simply a habit I picked up from there. If you read this Waiyf, you're going to have to deal with it. Different wikias require different methods of editing in case you aren't aware not all wikias are the same.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 05:42, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * You said it yourself, not all Wikias are the same, we have totally different editing to Naruto, which is totally different to Arrow and the Flash, so if you're going to complain, and just blame the fact that you edit at another wikia, which I also do, I admin 4 wikis, 2 which Im on every day editing, and 2 which I'm on whenever I get the chance, then just leave the wiki, OR read the article you're editing fully, and then edit it all at once. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  07:23, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Also not sure why you're blaming Wraiyf, I sent you the message. Also, he was VSTF so he had tools that made it MUCH faster for cleaning up pages and did yours by mistake. 07:29, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Shade because when he sent that message I only knew how to edit wikias I didn't even know people had their own talkpages or even knew how to get messages across. Waiyf I'm not complaining. The section by section editing is just a habit I picked up from it. It doesn't affect how I get the results if my editing does it? You told me a while back it was annoying (back when I had no idea how to use user talk page) and I'm telling you you're going to have to deal with it.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 08:47, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

By our wikia editing standards, your constant editing would be classified as edit spam, just edit all at once, or don't edit at all. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  09:12, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

RE:
I didn't graduate, I'm on disability, I forget alot, so my grammer is not very good at all. Sorry. I won't put anything on wiki that is not on my talk page, oh whay you said, that was mean and rude. Darkangel246 (talk) 01:45, November 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Cloudtheavenger, that was extremely rude, if someone has bad grammar, just correct it, if you're going to be rude one more time, you will be permabanned, as what you said was completely unnecessary! Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  02:15, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * You're right. My apologies. In my defense, I was hungry and I'm one of those people that get really moody when hungry.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 03:05, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * That isn't a reason for being rude. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  08:36, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Oliver Queen
Shouldn't have large amounts of people coming now so I removed the admin protect to registered users. You should be able to edit now! 06:39, December 29, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Oliver's Page
Hey man, thanks for notifying me! I've added on to your comment on his page and added a warning on Oliver's page. As for adminship, we only really add admins when we need it. As we're not an incredibly fast-paced or populated wiki, generally we admins just make a decision in terms of promoting. Really, just be sure to keep editing and fixing the wiki and try your darned hardest to help out the wiki! As a precursor, also, we generally go for users with fairly good grammar/punctuation and overall maturity. From what I've seen, you definitely seem to display those sort of qualities, so I'd say particularly focus on those if you were keen on helping the wiki further. (on a sidenote, you should make a userpage firstly!) —MakeShift (talk page) 10:13, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Image policy
Here are the image policies Arrow & The Flash Wiki:Policies and guidelines/Images. -- 22:02, January 3, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Cleaning up
Really if there was anything wrong, you would've been notified, just keep it up. 05:45, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

RE:
Because that's more trivia than a part of his abilities, I undo peoples edit, sometimes with explanations, sometimes without so that hopefully they work out what they've done wrong themselves, instead of having to tell them the same thing over and over again. It's not just said, it is also shown when he's running to Hathaway and then loses his speed AND his ability to walk, as he can't walk without the Speed Force. ALSO, if you undo an admins edit, you can get banned again, as we undo edits for a reason, trust me, I watched the episode, and the after credits, so I know that he said it, however you didn't put it in the right place. A lot of the time you tend to remove information which we admins deemed suitable to keep in the articles, which you then remove with a comment saying it doesn't belong there, when 70% of the time they can still go in that section, however it can still be mentioned in other sections, just not as much detail etc. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  04:08, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Infobox
Simple way, use source editor(I'm aware you mostly use visual), then type, click preview, then click source and it'll show you all the parameters. Also don't forgot to bold the page name the first time it appears in an article! 05:00, February 6, 2015 (UTC)


 * You can actually go to your preferences and set it so it always goes to source editor by default rather than visual! 02:06, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Vampire Diaries/The Originals Similarities
Hey, with that piece of trivia, it's isn't really needed, it's more coincidence than anything, and honestly it doesn't really have anything to do with the shows, other than they both have spin-off series. Before adding trivia like that, that incorporate's another CW series. As although it's the CW there's nothing really in the series that are similar so to speak. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  06:12, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Ranking
Hey, I saw what you wrote on TimeShade's wall, and I'm just letting you know, that's a big No-No, don't ask for ranks etc. because it'll make you look kind of power hungry, we've been thinking of giving you rollback rights, but we're still thinking on that. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  09:12, February 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * I said that it will make you look power hungry, not that you are power hungry, and we unerstand your meaning, however, just wait, go through the pages that aren't locked first, going through multiple pages isn't worth it, when one page may need a decent clean before the rest. Also adding onto what Jiskran said, don't say information is junk etc. just say redundant, or unneeded. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  22:18, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Tone of edit explanations
I simply wonder if you realise how dismissive you occasionally sound of others' efforts with comments like "The entire trivia section is junk". Perhaps, "Duplicate and redundant info" would be an acceptable substitute. 10:32, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Again, the matter of impression
Your edits and their attendant comments give me the feeling you believe you are the final arbiter of what belongs here, is 'good' trivia etc., and I find that to be counterproductive to the communal spirit of Wikia. You did not set this site up, you are not currently anything other than a regular user, and therefore your opinion carries no more weight than any other single voice. Please try to avoid these sweeping changes of things which, as you are currently arguing on the Undertaking, have not been proven wrong. Roy Harper was the first person cured of Mirakuru, and whether that is a relevant piece of trivia is not for you alone to decide. 23:45, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

Carrying the thought to its logical conclusion
If you are indulging in rational, coherent thought, you will be equally aware that patronising others and telling them what is and isn't their business very rarely leads to a mutually beneficial resolution. Please, don't talk down to me until you know, for a supported fact, that you are safe to do so. 00:18, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

Wikia as a whole
I am not, on any wiki, "out of [my] boundaries" (and that structure in itself is questionable grammatically) - as a Wikia Star I'm responsible for helping to oversee the running of the entire umbrella of sites. I have no plans to "walk away" from this or any other site to which I enjoy contributing, and the fact that the Admins haven't seen fit to comment yet is, according to the logic you espoused earlier, far from conclusive.

With regard to specific edits, I was, before this verbal tug-of-war, merely hoping that you might see fit to leave those things which do not pointlessly and exactly duplicate the main body of the text, since I have encountered numerous users on many sites who scan the Trivia first for a general sense of a character. So, hopefully, the deletions might be limited to those things which are incorrect, misleading or absolutely repeat the text elsewhere on the page. If the guidelines here say otherwise, then I apologise for overlooking that fact.

As to my signature, the Admins asked me not to upload the lengthy version here, so I'm stuck with the "sub" statement. 00:33, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Archving
There are two methods in which you can archive talk pages.

Method 1: Method 2:
 * The first one is to go to your talk page and click edit. Highlight all the text and hit ctrl + X(This copies all content and deletes it at the same time).
 * Create sub-page of your talk page(User_talk:Cloudtheavenger/Archive 1) and press ctrl + v to copy all text from your talk page into the archive.
 * Go back to your main talk page and have somewhere that would link to your talk page archives.
 * Rename your talk page into User_talk:Cloudtheavenger/Archive 1 without a redirect.
 * Go back to your talk page and somewhere that would link to your archives.

Hope this helped, if you have further questions, hop into our IRC channel for easier communication. 06:00, February 16, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Firestorm
well technically he is Firestorm, he now has majority of control for their fusion, so for now we'll keep him as Firestorm, as well as Dr Stein, if we have to we'll make a disambiguation, because FIRESTORM can lead to both pages so to speak. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  08:34, February 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * I shall speak to MakeShift and TimeShade and see what they think, though they'll probably agree with me, that seeing Ronnie is technically in control, Firestorm will mainly be on his page, however we may make a Disambiguation. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  08:43, February 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * With all due respect, if you're going to push and push for something, it will most likely not happen, people will go by appearances, with the complete transformation, it is 90% Ronnie with Martin on the inside giving his insight and helping Ronnie, so just leave it for now, I'm talking to TimeShade at the moment, and he's said that MakeShift said that we'll keep it on both pages. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  08:50, February 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * Nothing was said about deleting pages, and they were only made because you kept whinging and the others didn't want to put up with it. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  19:37, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Harrison Wells
Cisco did indeed bring it up, but Wells named the character and did a brief impression, saying he liked the movie. It does not appear to me a large enough aspect to belong in his essential personality, so aside from your obsession with not having Trivia, why shouldn't it be there? 10:27, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

Trivia
It is a small fact of potential interest or enlightenment, not a significant factor in his make-up or background, and therefore the very definition of trivia. Since you haven't advanced a reason for deleting it, I shall feel free to restore my addition. 00:42, February 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm actually confused as to why you deleted it at all. Wells says "'Doc Brown!' Tremendous picture!". The only thing that this tells us is that he is a fan of it, nothing more and nothing less. I'm completely confused as to how you think this has anything to do with his personality or anything, as it never implies any such thing. —MakeShift (talk page) 00:59, February 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm utterly confused as to how BTTF has anything to do with his personality? As we're up for definitions, here's 'personality': "the combination of characteristics or qualities that form an individual's distinctive character". As far as I can fathom, liking something in particular is not a characteristic of his personality, that in turn forms his distinctive character. It's what he likes. That's like saying Arrow would be placed under my personality section, cause I like it, but of course that sounds completely daft. Liking something does not mean it in any way relates to their personality. If perhaps he said "I model myself after Doc Brown", THEN it would suit that section, but otherwise definitely not. —MakeShift (talk page) 12:35, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Eddie Thawne's Mother
It's the way we've always done things since the start of the wikia, although not all the time do they get mentioned again (mainly mentioned characters are mentioned by a episode character) however with Eddie etc. if they mention parents etc. they tend to get mentioned more than once, and usually make an appearance. We'll lock the page, however we'll keep most of them. ALSO a lot of the time we can't control them being made, as we can't stop pages being created, anon's can make pages, then we can delete them, but we can't make it so that they can't make them. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  02:25, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

A few things...
To begin with, your edits for the most part look to be badge hoarding. I'm not saying you necessarily are, but obviously that's extremely frowned upon. In relation to that, there's also you adding infobox images to the rest of a page. If an image is in an infobox, it's susceptible to change, so it's not good to put it in to the rest of the article (not to mention to include the same image twice). Also is pages such as "Skeleton Key". A skeleton key is an actual thing, not a special name for the device, so a page such as that is highly unnecessary. That's like making a page for a table, because you see lots of them. Lastly is you adding "for the Arrow/The Flash series" to a handful of crew pages. It's mentioned a number of ways throughout the article that they work on those series, so it's redundant to put it. However, it's mostly that the introduction is a general view of their career, not their career in relation to this universe. Do remember to use common sense when editing, because it's a right pain to clean stuff up. —MakeShift (talk page) 06:36, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

CCFD?
Um, I'm not exactly sure if it helps (probably not), but Cisco mentioned 'his' suits were originally designed for firefighters (sorry, don't have the exact quote with me)... Does this kinda help establishing CCFD, making it more grounded? Like a side-note, they almost got an upgrade of suits, but it didn't happen... Just a thought. (nothing personal)

Sammm 06:34, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

In-universe writing
Just a reference, we prefer articles to be written in-universe. We have a few that's written out-of-universe but we're still the process of fixing up those articles. Just to reference what happened in each ep, end it with. 07:30, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * "Sara was born at the end of The Calm" for example is out of universe as in universe. 08:09, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe that, as she was named after Sara. Another could be something like "Sara was born in October 2015.". 08:27, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Plagiarism
This is copying another writer's analysis etc., not quoting from the show which is a different process. 08:35, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Again, the detail of definition
Since the entire wiki is predicated upon the show it is not plagiarism, the source being implicit. At most, it is a failure to adequately cite the source of a quotation. 08:53, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

RE:
The lucky edit badge is worth 100 points. Every badge that has a golden border with multiple spikes is worth 100. A round silver bordered badge is worth 50. A bronze with a star like badge is just worth 10. 09:14, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Image
We prefer another image gets uploaded for this case, one with an angle that includes Oliver. 06:54, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Should add, the main reason is because it's an infobox image, it would likely be changed in the future. 07:10, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

RE:In Universe writing
Yes, and once the end of characters bio of an episode is over, end it with. 04:53, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

Behaviour
To be quite blunt, you seriously need to reconsider your behaviour. Many of Jiskran's edits have been warranted, all of his arguments fair and you've treated him nothing but badly. Of course, that's not to say you haven't had good points or haven't been right, which you have, but you've treated Jiskran poorly and he's been right on many occasions. He's a great editor and you're only relatively new to the wiki. Generally speaking in a wiki, the newer users look up to the older ones, as a somewhat sign of respect, though you've just labelled him as an obsessive, bad editor and acted as if you know better. As any editor, myself and the other admins included, if you're wrong then you should acknowledge it. Accept that you might not always be right, because you often won't be, and be a little bit more mature than you've acted in the past couple of weeks. A few good edits does not overrule bad edits and justify that you've treated someone respectful contrastingly disrespectfully, so learn some manners, because I'll not see someone nice like Jiskran being treated badly, it's getting old. —MakeShift (talk page) 12:52, February 27, 2015 (UTC)


 * You blame him for not posting on the talk page, yet neither did you. Imagine he had your mentality. Now you're in the wrong, aren't you? But I hardly feel like you can blame bad interactions on talk pages that aren't used. A lot of people don't take the time to view talk pages, so you would've been better to have contacted an admin. As for ignoring him, you could have gone about it better. I read the message myself and it honestly just sounded as if you were trying to be incredibly rude and ignorant, so it probably came across to him as such. —MakeShift (talk page) 00:53, February 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * All in all, I think you two should try to come to some agreement, as you both obviously have enthusiasm and wish to add great content, so it'd be wonderful to have you working in unison. —MakeShift (talk page) 12:03, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Apology to Jiskran
Cloud, I think you should go and give Jiskran an apology. Things escalated way too far, and he shouldn't have to leave because you strutted in here with the utmost arrogant demeanor I've seen on a wiki. You should also know that you just insulted one of the people who run the DCTV Wikis as we're a pretty close knit group, and that while you may be safe here Jiskran is an admin on Gotham Wiki, which I'm the founder of, and is always welcome as an admin on Supergirl Wiki, and Titans Wiki, which I'm also the founder of. So maybe you should rethink the whole apology angle. Not trying to come off as a douche or anything, but Jiskran has been here longer than you, and if anyone should be leaving, it's not him. Neptune -  Everything's impossible until somebody does it.  14:45, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Deletion
Depends, if it is something irrelevant to the shows then yes. 02:05, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Time badge
I believe it's by wikias time which is UTC, not 100% sure though. 05:41, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's awkward though, using another persons account. Perhaps you can find a page that most people won't edit on, then give a friend of family member instructions to do it for you? 07:54, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Deletion
Admins have to delete pages. The pages you set are debatable, despite the obvious stuff. For example, people kept saying after season 1, people on the list who didn't appear should have their pages deleted as they will never ever appear physically. They were dead wrong, with characters like Isabel Rochev and Daniel Brickwell appearing. Best to keep it because who knows, maybe for some reason we'll see them or at least get some info on them. 20:43, March 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Really it's something in the gray area. Will further discuss between other admins. 23:03, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Jiskran
If you posted on his talk page, there isn't a whole lot more that I can do. I think for now he wants to take a break, as he is an admin on a large number of other wikis, so it's probably for the best. —MakeShift (talk page) 10:42, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Cleanup template
Sorry, I did check your message on the day, but I must've gone out and accidentally forgotten about it. In regards to a cleanup template, the current "Stub" template has stupidly been put basically where a cleanup one should be in a lot of instances. In future we'll definitely implement such a template, don't worry about one for now. In regards to erasing pages, if you do that then it'll technically be vandalism. Removing chunks of content and not replacing it is still removing chunks of content. Of course, if you do plan to replace it straight away, then go right ahead! —MakeShift (talk page) 07:16, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you've thought over what you have written... What exactly is your definition of "fairly close"? This is what you wrote:
 * It is apparent that Nanda Parbat is fairly close to Starling City as Nyssa and Maseo was able to travel there and return to Starling City within 48 hours.

I'm sure you know 48 hours = 2 days. I friquently travel from Asia to North America, and the plane ride doesn't even take half a day. Do you consider Asia fairly close to North America?

It's not like the show specified the league was using archival traveling method like WALKING or riding on camal backs or by boat. I find the "it is apparent" statement a bit weird.

S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 08:37, March 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hmmmm.... Do you prefer I take this to Nanda Parbat's talk page and discuss this publicly? I honestly thought it was a statement written without common sense therefore slightly embarrassing, but if that's how I can get you to think twice about it, or at least respond like I believe you told the admins or other users you would when someone wrote on your talk page; I guess I'll do that. This is nothing personal, just someone seeing something and feels it a bit jumping-to-the-wrong-conclusion, genuinely wants to know why it was being written in the first place. Will wait for a week for a reply or edit.


 * The new information you added does not really help the case; IT STILL CAN BE DONE in two days if traveling by plane; it doesn't prove anything. Personally, I actually got the implication that the 48hr-clock stopped ticking when Oliver requested to meet Ra's, and upon the new deal he tried to strike, he was given 13 hrs to go to a certain place for the dual. There's also the possibility that the whole thing regarding location and time was simply mislooked.


 * Lastly, it is established that Nanda Parbat is at Hindu Kush, and Hindu Kush is in Asia; whereas Starling City is in America. So this really just go back to what I was asking you in the first place: Do you consider Asia fairly close to North America?


 * S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 22:01, March 17, 2015 (UTC)


 * LMAO, you're the one who said if there's an issue, talk to you about it. Unlike you, I don't go reverting other people's edits that are not vandalism, and from what you wrote, it obviously looked like you've at least given some thought, or why else would you even put it there? What you consider annoying is what I consider a polite way to discuss things when there's different opinions at bay. We'll just agree to disagree on our method to deal with stuff. Thanks for letting me know that from now on, if I see something I don't think make sense coming from you, I can just undo it without fear of hurting your feelings or offending you. I don't get to meet people with qualities like that very often.
 * S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:07, March 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * Understood. You are completely right that I don't fully understand the functions on wikia, as I am indeed fairly new to the site, so thanks for enlightening me. I do however wonder the efficiency of questioning stuff on the subject matter's talk page; will the editors know I was questioning about their edits? The only reason I wrote to you is because I thought that was the guarantee way for you to receive the message. I guess, if I had known that every editors would check the talk page of pages they've edited, I wouldn't have bothered writing to you, so again, thanks for letting me know.


 * I agree with your statement about not being vandalism not equal to be of quality; however, for me, what exactly is of quality, remains pretty subjective on certain level, so I myself am not comfortable of judging other people's work in that sense, and that's just me.
 * S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:29, March 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you missed the bold words that the question on the specific edit is not personal, if it were done by someone else, I would still write to them. I have nothing against you as a person and the only reason I was writing to you in the first place was about the content of a specific edit, and NOT THE STYLE. I have no idea on what part I wrote that would make you think I was insulting your editing style; all I did was stating we have different styles and we handle stuff differently, is that wrong? I am in no way trying to change you and how you do your edits, if that's somehow what you thought I was saying, well, I'm sorry for not making it clear.
 * S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 00:43, March 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey there! Sorry for the belated reply; I don't have cable so I have to watch the episode by other means, usually only able to watch it after the episode ended. Now I'm done. Thanks for your most recent comment! To me, the tone was quite different and considerably more welcoming. You are quite right, I do not have the confidence, because well, sometimes even I myself don't know if I'm right, so I don't expect people to think that I'm right, that's why I choose to ask them instead. lol I will keep it in mind though. For the specific edit, thanks for letting me know it was purposely left there as well; I will work on it someday! To me, editing wikia is kind of addicting, and I don't want it to be the only thing I get done at the end of the day, so I set a goal to only add/edit content to a single topic once per day. There's a couple a few other stuff that I feel are in more dire situations, so quoting Dr.-Harrison-Wells-isn't-really-his-name, it becomes then a question of priorities; but yeah I will get my hands on it one day! =]


 * BTW, from now on, do we stop refer him as Wells and start using his actual name? I'm actually a little bummed about it cuz I like to say Wells with a defiant tone lol
 * S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 02:54, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Suggestion
And that I always do. But "The Original Ra's Al Ghul" was not a good title from an encyclopedic standpoint. —MakeShift (talk page) 20:25, March 19, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Protection
We add that to all main character pages until the end of season. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  21:00, March 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'll give you a hint... check her trivia ;) Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  01:56, March 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * She's referred to as Nyssa al Ghul by Andrew Kreisberg so changed the page back. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  08:01, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Eobard Thawne
It was just locked because it was such a big episode, so there was bound to be heavy editing throughout the week. It'll probably be unlocked soon enough! —MakeShift (talk page) 06:25, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

Block
Quite frankly, the way you've acted has been appalling. A lot of users have gotten quite sick of your attitude and it's quite frankly rude that you parade around the wiki as if you run it, which is really what you've done. That in itself has been bad enough. As if that weren't enough, it only just came to my attention as I've been very busy that you severely vandalised the Barry Allen page. Ignoring the fact that it's a big page to begin with, you've removed almost all of the biography, replacing practically every episode with a measly little sentence with no real value. A biography is literally that, not a summary, so don't expect that you're right every single time. I'll also mention the badge hoarding that you were quite blatantly doing. We were happy to ignore it for the sake of a potentially good editor, but it's never good. Maybe take the 3 months (which I'd say is nice, but the other admins seem to say otherwise) to accept that you're not a god, and your opinion is not always the right one. On more than one occasion you've been a pain in the neck, so I'll see you in 3 months. —MakeShift (talk page) 08:01, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Curare and Lian Yu Herbs
The stub template was added by a user who finds several ways to evade his bans. Those articles look about complete so they probs won't be needed anymore. 09:29, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Note
We've actually done that before and it still doesn't stop people. Especially unregistered editors, though not limited to. —MakeShift (talk page) 08:44, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Quotes
Regarding your post on MakeShifts talk page, the whole point of having the quote at the top is so it quickly describes the character, aside from the abstract. 20:48, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Oliver Queen
Hey I've been trying to update Oliver's page with a picture of his new costume but you keep undoing it. I would really appreciate it if you explained why you're preventing me from adding a picture of Oliver as the Green Arrow. Thanks.StormLeo25 (talk) 20:57, July 15, 2015 (UTC)StormLeo25

RE:Female actors
No lol. Actor can be applied to both sexes. Neptune -  Everything's impossible until somebody does it.  06:44, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

No, it's called I was editing, and this wiki has autorefresh, and I saw what you asked him, and he told me to respond for him. Neptune -  Everything's impossible until somebody does it.  06:53, July 16, 2015 (UTC)