User blog:Nightslayer2/Batwoman Theory

Commissioner Forbes is the police commissioner of the Gotham City Police Department. What happened to Commissioner Gordon? How come there are no appearances of Alfred Pennyworth, Lucius Fox, Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, and Leslie Thompkins?

We know recently that Lucius Fox was killed in 2015 by a criminal when getting ice for Luke Fox and that Tommy learned Bruce was Batman from Riddler? Why is Gordon not commissioner? In the DC comics, Jack Forbes is a corrupt major of the Gotham City Police Department who missed the days when the police were treated like kings and costumed criminals were gunned down so he agreed to work for mobster Carmine Falcone, eventually being appointed Interim Commissioner in James Gordon's absence. In the comics, Forbes only becomes commissioner right after Gordon was wrongfully accused.

What if the Riddler told Carmine Falcone or some other mobster who Batman is and who his allies are? Forcing the mob to pull strings and succeed where Ricardo Diaz failed with Star City and Oliver Queen. I kind of hope that Gotham becomes merged into the Arrowverse in the aftermath of the Crisis so that way an older Sofia Falcone or Alberto can be the future main villain. Perhaps Bruce Wayne is dead and the mob covered it up by claiming Bruce left Gotham long ago.

If Gotham doesn't get merged into the Arrowverse, then it should either Carmine Falcone or his son Mario following in Carmine's footsteps. What do you think? Should a mobster become the main villain in the second season of Batwoman? I think that would work because I think Forbes might be corrupt just like in the comics, or perhaps he is just someone following James Gordon's footsteps?

If the CW decides to apply the approach and Gotham ' is not in the Arrowverse, Carmine Falcone went to medical school with Leslie Thompkins and Thomas Wayne, where they were known as the Three Musketeers. There was a love triangle between Carmine, Lee, and Gordon. However, Lee chose Gordon instead of Carmine, prompting him to follow in the footsteps of his mobster father Vincent Falcone. However, Vincent wouldn't have Carmine involved in the family business as a promise he made to Carmine's mother. After graduating from medical school, Carmine would travel to Hong Kong where he quickly tried to take over as crime boss there, causing him to go head-to-head with the reigning crime lord Shen Fang. A huge gang war would take place, lasting five years, with Falcone using Yakuza from Tokyo while Fang countered with Triads from Shanghai, but towards the end it appeared that Falcone was on the verge of victory until one day, he received an invitation that told of the fall of Jim Gordon and the devastation of Gotham City. Seeing this as a lucrative opportunity, Falcone approaches Fang and makes a deal with him, he would leave Hong Kong and all of its operations to him and give the impression that Fang had won the war as long as Fang gives him a percentage of the entire Hong Kong operation. Using his self-made wealth from Hong Kong, Carmine would return to muscle in on Gotham's rackets, killing his father and then taking it over for himself. When the FBI start investigating the murder of Vincent Falcone, Carmine manipulates the Bureau into blaming Gordon by using his medical school knowledge to plant evidence against him. Gordon is then arrested and sent to Blackgate by the Bureau. Falcone uses his influence over the mayor of Gotham City to promote Forbes, a lieutenant, to the commissioner, acting as Carmine's agent. Now with his revenge on Gordon complete for 'taking' Leslie away from him, Falcone focuses his attention on Batman, for making business bad for the mob.

With Forbes in charge, the GCPD with anonymous aid from Falcone, begin to foil the operations of other criminals, notably Professor Pyg whose lab was destroyed and the Penguin, with whom he re-ignited an old rivalry when he sunk Cobblepot's Iceberg Casino into the ocean. Falcone then later pulled strings with Judge Calverick, Assistant District Attorney Angus Stanton, and Detective Stu Donnelly to have Cobblepot executed by a firing squad after helping Forbes expose his corruption. Then in 2015, Batman confronts Falcone and asks him whether or not he was involved with framing Gordon, which Falcone denies, but Batman vows that if he had anything to do with it he will take him down. Carmine then vows to take down all the costumed vigilantes in Gotham City. Knowing that he cannot get the FBI to help out of concern the Government might stumble on to what he's planning and knowing that Falcone cannot get Forbes and Hady to help without agitating the public, Falcone decided to devote his time and energy in finding out Batman's secret identity. Finally, Falcone succeeded in his investigation by paying the Riddler. So, in retaliation, Falcone had Lucius killed as a warning to Batman. Falcone blackmailed Bruce into leaving Gotham and not telling Luke by threatening the rest of Bruce's loved ones: Gordon, Barbara, Jacob, Luke, Tamara Fox, Tanya Fox, Tiffany Fox, Tamara Fox, and Kate. Bruce then agreed to it in exchange for the safety of his family and left Gotham, promising Falcone never to come back. Falcone didn't have it in him to kill Bruce since he is Thomas Wayne's son, but he did have it in him to threaten the Kanes (only because Carmine never liked Martha) and the Fox family.

In order to prevent Luke from trying to seek revenge for having his father killed, Falcone and Assistant District Attorney Angus Stanton set up a common thug as the fall guy for Lucius Fox's murder. In 2018 when Batwoman emerged, Falcone suspected it to be Bruce going back on his deal, but after finding Bruce, Carmine decided he was clean, especially when he learned it was a Batwoman. Falcone thought it was Kate but decided it wasn't her since Jacob and her blame Batman for what happened to their family. Since then, Falcone has been running Gotham while using Forbes to keep Batwoman, the Crows, and the police on a leash. Now that Jacob is arrested and Catherine Hamilton Kane (the woman who uses Helix Dynamics to supply weapons to his mob in exchange for cash) is dead, Falcone will assign some other guy to lead the Crows and he will be a hardass who treats everyone badly like Nathaniel Barnes from Gotham. Perhaps it could be Francis Redhorn from the Nightwing comics.

If they decide to make Gotham exist in the past, then they should Mario, who was in coma after Gordon shot him to save Lee and recovered from the Tetch virus. Upon seeing what became of Sofia and his father, Mario started working to get revenge on Gordon. Or perhaps it could be Sofia reawakened from her coma, again to get revenge on Gordon and Lee.