Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-5441128-20170511124406/@comment-24152851-20170528021932

Xandermcc wrote: Stryzzar wrote:

Xandermcc wrote:

Stryzzar wrote: Most Hollywood films aren't that terrible. If there is one that's terrible, than they end up being franchise killers and the films will stop because they can no longer cash in on that name. That's what happened after Batman and Robin aired. The story isn't really Joel Shumacher's fault. It is the merchandising agencies. They felt that Tim's Batman movies weren't marketable cause they weren't kid friendly. Even though it is Batman, he isn't kid friendly at times. It wasn't the lightheartedness that made the film terrible. Batman Forever was actually pretty fun to watch, even if Jim Carrey carried the whole film.

Batman and Robin just sucked. Arnold Schwarzenegger's Mr. Freeze was incredibly lame and silly with his cold puns. Wentworth Miller came along 2 decades later and nailed the live action cold villain portrayal. George Clooney was possibly the worst Batman ever. The Batsuits had nipples on them. And don't even get me started on Bane being in that film, being reduced to savage wild animal on steroids. The nipples on the batsuit wasn't the biggest problem for me. Batman has had plenty of worse outfits. Remember Azrael Batman and the disco suit? The thing is though despite Batman Forever being good, that tone change continuing to the next one didn't work because they went overboard by Batman & Robin with the puns, practically cardboard characters with no sense to them. It also through basic physics out of the window like Superman IV. Alright fine, worst live action Batsuit. Didn't actually know about Disco Batman, I can never unsee that O.O

Yep, that's largely the issue. They went too far with the humor, so that the entire thing felt more at home on a slapstick MAD TV sketch. I still cringe at those ice puns today. They weren't even well timed like when our Leonard Snart does them and just thrown in there every 5 seconds just for the hell of it. The physics wasn't what killed the film though.