User talk:Cloudtheavenger

Welcome
Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the Isabel Rochev page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! MakeShift (talk) 21:56, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Editing.
When editing, please do all your edits for one article at once, it's annoying seeing you constantly take out sections, then re add them in another section in different edits, myself and MakeShift discussed warning you a while ago, but then you went MIA, so we didn't bother, so if you're going to remove content for reasons like "belongs in plot" etc. then do it all at once instead of multiple edits. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  09:02, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Trivia can also include notes and such, one thing you removed is a note that references what another character does in the comics as deadshot does in the show, therefor it's trivia.  Time  Shade " First things first, but not necessarily in that order." - The Fourth Doctor  00:32, March 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * After going over your edits, and your summaries for edits, it sounds like you need to take a leaf from your own book so that you know what IS trivia, and what isn't. If you do one more junk edit like what you've been doing lately, you will be blocked for 1 week, and if your edits continue on the same path, after being blocked, you may be blocked for longer periods of time. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  00:45, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

Undo edit
Don't get defensive when someone undo's your edit. Note that the person who did that is a VSTF and was just helping out clean out the redundant category, his intention wasn't to remove that content. 23:19, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Wasn't being defensive I don't like reverse editing without an explanation. Also I've been getting complaints that I do section by section editing instead of the entire page at once and it's annoying Waiyf. My reason is because I'm mostly on the Naruto Wikia which has huge pages so it's more efficient to do section by section on there so it's simply a habit I picked up from there. If you read this Waiyf, you're going to have to deal with it. Different wikias require different methods of editing in case you aren't aware not all wikias are the same.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 05:42, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * You said it yourself, not all Wikias are the same, we have totally different editing to Naruto, which is totally different to Arrow and the Flash, so if you're going to complain, and just blame the fact that you edit at another wikia, which I also do, I admin 4 wikis, 2 which Im on every day editing, and 2 which I'm on whenever I get the chance, then just leave the wiki, OR read the article you're editing fully, and then edit it all at once. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  07:23, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Also not sure why you're blaming Wraiyf, I sent you the message. Also, he was VSTF so he had tools that made it MUCH faster for cleaning up pages and did yours by mistake. 07:29, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Shade because when he sent that message I only knew how to edit wikias I didn't even know people had their own talkpages or even knew how to get messages across. Waiyf I'm not complaining. The section by section editing is just a habit I picked up from it. It doesn't affect how I get the results if my editing does it? You told me a while back it was annoying (back when I had no idea how to use user talk page) and I'm telling you you're going to have to deal with it.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 08:47, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

By our wikia editing standards, your constant editing would be classified as edit spam, just edit all at once, or don't edit at all. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  09:12, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

RE:
I didn't graduate, I'm on disability, I forget alot, so my grammer is not very good at all. Sorry. I won't put anything on wiki that is not on my talk page, oh whay you said, that was mean and rude. Darkangel246 (talk) 01:45, November 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Cloudtheavenger, that was extremely rude, if someone has bad grammar, just correct it, if you're going to be rude one more time, you will be permabanned, as what you said was completely unnecessary! Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  02:15, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * You're right. My apologies. In my defense, I was hungry and I'm one of those people that get really moody when hungry.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 03:05, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * That isn't a reason for being rude. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  08:36, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Oliver Queen
Shouldn't have large amounts of people coming now so I removed the admin protect to registered users. You should be able to edit now! 06:39, December 29, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Oliver's Page
Hey man, thanks for notifying me! I've added on to your comment on his page and added a warning on Oliver's page. As for adminship, we only really add admins when we need it. As we're not an incredibly fast-paced or populated wiki, generally we admins just make a decision in terms of promoting. Really, just be sure to keep editing and fixing the wiki and try your darned hardest to help out the wiki! As a precursor, also, we generally go for users with fairly good grammar/punctuation and overall maturity. From what I've seen, you definitely seem to display those sort of qualities, so I'd say particularly focus on those if you were keen on helping the wiki further. (on a sidenote, you should make a userpage firstly!) —MakeShift (talk page) 10:13, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Image policy
Here are the image policies Arrow & The Flash Wiki:Policies and guidelines/Images. -- 22:02, January 3, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Cleaning up
Really if there was anything wrong, you would've been notified, just keep it up. 05:45, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

RE:
Because that's more trivia than a part of his abilities, I undo peoples edit, sometimes with explanations, sometimes without so that hopefully they work out what they've done wrong themselves, instead of having to tell them the same thing over and over again. It's not just said, it is also shown when he's running to Hathaway and then loses his speed AND his ability to walk, as he can't walk without the Speed Force. ALSO, if you undo an admins edit, you can get banned again, as we undo edits for a reason, trust me, I watched the episode, and the after credits, so I know that he said it, however you didn't put it in the right place. A lot of the time you tend to remove information which we admins deemed suitable to keep in the articles, which you then remove with a comment saying it doesn't belong there, when 70% of the time they can still go in that section, however it can still be mentioned in other sections, just not as much detail etc. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  04:08, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Infobox
Simple way, use source editor(I'm aware you mostly use visual), then type, click preview, then click source and it'll show you all the parameters. Also don't forgot to bold the page name the first time it appears in an article! 05:00, February 6, 2015 (UTC)


 * You can actually go to your preferences and set it so it always goes to source editor by default rather than visual! 02:06, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Vampire Diaries/The Originals Similarities
Hey, with that piece of trivia, it's isn't really needed, it's more coincidence than anything, and honestly it doesn't really have anything to do with the shows, other than they both have spin-off series. Before adding trivia like that, that incorporate's another CW series. As although it's the CW there's nothing really in the series that are similar so to speak. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  06:12, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Ranking
Hey, I saw what you wrote on TimeShade's wall, and I'm just letting you know, that's a big No-No, don't ask for ranks etc. because it'll make you look kind of power hungry, we've been thinking of giving you rollback rights, but we're still thinking on that. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  09:12, February 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * I said that it will make you look power hungry, not that you are power hungry, and we unerstand your meaning, however, just wait, go through the pages that aren't locked first, going through multiple pages isn't worth it, when one page may need a decent clean before the rest. Also adding onto what Jiskran said, don't say information is junk etc. just say redundant, or unneeded. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  22:18, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Tone of edit explanations
I simply wonder if you realise how dismissive you occasionally sound of others' efforts with comments like "The entire trivia section is junk". Perhaps, "Duplicate and redundant info" would be an acceptable substitute. 10:32, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Again, the matter of impression
Your edits and their attendant comments give me the feeling you believe you are the final arbiter of what belongs here, is 'good' trivia etc., and I find that to be counterproductive to the communal spirit of Wikia. You did not set this site up, you are not currently anything other than a regular user, and therefore your opinion carries no more weight than any other single voice. Please try to avoid these sweeping changes of things which, as you are currently arguing on the Undertaking, have not been proven wrong. Roy Harper was the first person cured of Mirakuru, and whether that is a relevant piece of trivia is not for you alone to decide. 23:45, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

Carrying the thought to its logical conclusion
If you are indulging in rational, coherent thought, you will be equally aware that patronising others and telling them what is and isn't their business very rarely leads to a mutually beneficial resolution. Please, don't talk down to me until you know, for a supported fact, that you are safe to do so. 00:18, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

Wikia as a whole
I am not, on any wiki, "out of [my] boundaries" (and that structure in itself is questionable grammatically) - as a Wikia Star I'm responsible for helping to oversee the running of the entire umbrella of sites. I have no plans to "walk away" from this or any other site to which I enjoy contributing, and the fact that the Admins haven't seen fit to comment yet is, according to the logic you espoused earlier, far from conclusive.

With regard to specific edits, I was, before this verbal tug-of-war, merely hoping that you might see fit to leave those things which do not pointlessly and exactly duplicate the main body of the text, since I have encountered numerous users on many sites who scan the Trivia first for a general sense of a character. So, hopefully, the deletions might be limited to those things which are incorrect, misleading or absolutely repeat the text elsewhere on the page. If the guidelines here say otherwise, then I apologise for overlooking that fact.

As to my signature, the Admins asked me not to upload the lengthy version here, so I'm stuck with the "sub" statement. 00:33, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Archving
There are two methods in which you can archive talk pages.

Method 1: Method 2:
 * The first one is to go to your talk page and click edit. Highlight all the text and hit ctrl + X(This copies all content and deletes it at the same time).
 * Create sub-page of your talk page(User_talk:Cloudtheavenger/Archive 1) and press ctrl + v to copy all text from your talk page into the archive.
 * Go back to your main talk page and have somewhere that would link to your talk page archives.
 * Rename your talk page into User_talk:Cloudtheavenger/Archive 1 without a redirect.
 * Go back to your talk page and somewhere that would link to your archives.

Hope this helped, if you have further questions, hop into our IRC channel for easier communication. 06:00, February 16, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Firestorm
well technically he is Firestorm, he now has majority of control for their fusion, so for now we'll keep him as Firestorm, as well as Dr Stein, if we have to we'll make a disambiguation, because FIRESTORM can lead to both pages so to speak. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  08:34, February 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * I shall speak to MakeShift and TimeShade and see what they think, though they'll probably agree with me, that seeing Ronnie is technically in control, Firestorm will mainly be on his page, however we may make a Disambiguation. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  08:43, February 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * With all due respect, if you're going to push and push for something, it will most likely not happen, people will go by appearances, with the complete transformation, it is 90% Ronnie with Martin on the inside giving his insight and helping Ronnie, so just leave it for now, I'm talking to TimeShade at the moment, and he's said that MakeShift said that we'll keep it on both pages. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  08:50, February 18, 2015 (UTC)