Board Thread:Batwoman discussions/@comment-807326-20191007010047/@comment-27700324-20191007162236

Yes to the first thing, no to the other. While there was no car crash with Batman failing to save the day, there was a murder. Kate was blindfolded when her mother and sister were shot by enemies of Jacob. However Alice was just there in the room and the one shot was an actress meant to fool Kate. Alice went off the deep end and joined the Cult of Crime afterwards.