Board Thread:The Flash discussions/@comment-9346948-20170510001536/@comment-3423279-20170518160303

Ummm...

I never claimed Savitar existed before Flashpoint.

I said he existed after Flashpoint and traveled to other universes which is the only real explanation for the crap they gave us.

Eobard evidently never knew about Savitar because from his perspective Savitar never existed, the newspaper only changed when Flashpoint became a thing.

There is also no history about the Savitar on the show on Earth-1, showing he never actually interacted with it in the past, therefore, no history.

Flashpoint can only affect Earth-1's history and still have Savitar interact with other Earths, he's a time/dimensional traveler.

Eobard doesn't have to ever encounter Savitar, in fact, he never encountered or even knew about Savitar because his version of history doesn't have such an entity, as evidenced by the future newspaper having Iris West-Allen as the writer, yet Post-Flashpoint it did not.

And nobody's memories changed to include this information.

You're making kinda a mistake, the writers literally said that their time travel doesn't actually have rules anymore and yet you are applying time travel rules to it.

They almost literally had Savitar say "Stop thinking about it, the rules don't apply anymore, it just works."

Here's the series of events.

Normal Timeline up until the point of Flashpoint

1st Post-Flashpoint timeline happens

Barry goes on to face Savitar, using time remnants which are all killed except one

Barry defeats and imprisones Savitar

Time Remnant Barry gets angsty and becomes Savitar

Savitar goes back in time to other universes for some reason to build up the legend of Savitar, the first and fastest speedster, doing so lets him interact with other worlds who are not affected by the various timeline changes as stated by Harrison Wells.

This allows for Jay Garrick to have knowledge of Savitar despite him technically only existing after Flashpoint, from Jay's perspective, Savitar has been around for a while.

Savitar then is trapped in the Speed Force by Future Barry

The Speed Force is a strange dimension where time is so screwed up it isn't funny, therefore, Savitar can use the Flashpoint event to cause Wally West to become a speedster and switch places with him.

He does so, is freed, and is now attempting to continue the stable time loop of events.

Does it not make sense? Good.

That's Flash time travel for you.

"We don't care, say Speed Force at it all makes sense."