Board Thread:The Flash discussions/@comment-9346948-20170510001536/@comment-31577509-20170511113623

Stryzzar wrote: Andytrenom wrote: Stryzzar wrote: Andytrenom wrote: Xandermcc wrote: Stryzzar wrote:

Xandermcc wrote:

Stryzzar wrote:

Steven Bomb 17 wrote:

Did anyone else laugh after this exchange

Barry: I remember.

Savitar: I remember.

Barry: I remember everything.

Savitar: I remember everything.

I mean I get that they wanted to show that Savitar remembered everything but they could've just implied that Barry: I remember everything clearly.

Savitar: I remember everything clearly.

Barry: I remember everything clearly, like how I wet the bed when I was ten.

Savitar: I remember everything clearly, like how ...umm actually I don't remember anymore. Savitar: I REMEMBER DRAGON BALL Z! Barry: I remember Goku is faster than me. Don't think so. Has Goku ever travelled through time? If we are talking about CW Barry, then yeah, Goku is faster by a ridiculous degree. If we are talking about comics Barry and Pre-DBS Goku, then Barry is faster by inconcievable margins. It's not even fair to compare Goku and CW Flash since Barry is at most mach 700. Comics Barry definitely faster considering his speed is potentially limitless. Arrowverse Barry is only at Mach 3 if I remember correctly. Arrowverse Barry is Mach 13.2 through character statements, but his feats put him way beyond that limit. Case in point, Caitlyn tells Barry in the season 1 finale that he has never gone Mach 2 before even though he has a feat where he percieves lightning in slow motion. Oh I thought Wally was up to Mach 3 a few eps before they had their race. Meh, guess Wally got faster after that point. Seeing fast doesn't necessarily translate to actually moving that fast, it's just because their brains function quicker.

In any case it's not right to use time travel capability to show who's faster. In TV Flash, you only need to hit Mach 2 to be able to time travel. Goku is far-far beyond Mach 2, even in Z. Yes, reaction speed and movement speed are different, I should have been more clear regarding the lightning feat and why it falls under movement speed. Anyway, it doesn't matter since the mach 700 figure is from a different feat where Barry runs around Central City in 2 seconds.

Also, Flash time travel is not purely a result of running fast, it's an additional power that speed force users have.