Board Thread:The Flash discussions/@comment-5441128-20170524174933/@comment-24152851-20170705155602

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Stryzzar wrote: We doing these now? Ooh ooh I want in!

My name is Wally West, I am the sidekick of the fastest man alive. After my mother became terminally ill, I found out I have a father, a sister, and some other guy living in their house. Turns out that other guy was the Flash. One day I touched the Philosopher's Stone which turned me into a speedster just like him. Together we use our speed to keep the city safe from metahumans, while I constantly remind him how I'll soon be faster than him. I am Kid Flash! There is talk about a Spin Off series of Wally West. Just rumors. I doubt it will happen because CW couldn't afford it. Why not? Already have 4 shows which is draining their budget. Only way a Wally West spinoff would work is if it wasn't on CW. If that is the case. Why are there news about new shows? Titans and Black Lightning aren't in this universe. Titans has a chance of being Arrowverse, but unconfirmed at this point. If it was really part of the Arrowverse, we would have characters on the team in the shows like Miss Martian, Roy, and Kid Flash. Hold your horses they're not even through the casting stage.

I've also explained before they're going for the New Titans that the 2003 cartoon was based off, not the original Titans made up of sidekicks. Exactly, the characters have been announced to not be the Titans members from the show. So it seems to be not in the Arrowverse. You completely missed my point. They're sticking with the team consisting of Nightwing, Starfire, and Raven, which thanks to the cartoon is the most iconic incarnation of the Teen Titans. The sidekicks like Roy, Wally, and M'ghann all have importance in their own shows, while the Titans (aside from Dick Grayson and Beast Boy) all have no prior history with other heroes, they start off their careers on that team.

Honestly the sidekicks you mentioned are now identified more closely with Young Justice thanks to the other cartoon, rather than as Titans. Wally is still a significant player in the Titans, same with Roy. Also i just feel that it will be a seperate show like Black Lightning. It doesn't seem to be connected because it is just picking up the idea TNT's Titans started. They're just too important to their own shows, on in Roy's case he's gone altogether until further notice. I could picture Wally making some cameos.

I know, but it would be nice if they could have them coexist. It'd save them from having to reestablish lots of characters that already exist on CW. It also isn't on the CW so that shows it won't be the same world. It is in DC's new network which will also have Young Justice Season 3. I'm aware of that. May I remind you of Constantine and Supergirl all originally being on different networks. The reason they can't put it on CW is because they've filled up all the slots already. However I still think there's a chance due to CW's Greg Berlanti and Sarah Schechter producing it.

There's just so many characters that would be easier if they got reused from existing incarnations rather than recasting. J.J Abrams made Star Wars and Star Trek movies and i don't think they are in the same world considering how divided their fan base is. Also the CW had room for Supergirl as their final show. They no longer do for Teen Titans. That is also why Black Lightning is in a seperate world. Because they can't do a week long crossover when he is on when the shows are on break. They don't have room for it, but that doesn't mean there will be no continuity at all. Existing in the same universe just means they can make a few easter eggs to other shows here and there, but they don't have to regularly guest star. LoT didn't actually have an official crossover with the others during its first season. Yes, they did. It actually debuted the show. The Vandal Savage antagonist tease doesn't count. None of the Legends were there, and aside from a cameo from Oliver and Laurel at the start, none of the Arrow-Flash cast had a mass crossover with Legends on the same scale as Invasion.

And even if I do count it. Legends is a very special circumstance because they are literally transplanting a whole heap of existing characters over. Also some of the characters haven't fully come back from the dead like Sara. I'm just saying it could happen, okay? You don't have to nitpick in every single way on why it's completely absolutely impossible. Well i am just saying, if they do, great. However it is unlikely considering the lack of four night crossovers. Nothing is unlikely in Arrowverse it's just if they choose to do it. After all Scarface Barry was Savitar. Barritar! With Titans, it is the trouble of different networks again. Black Lightning could probably do small mentions to the universe of Supergirl since Suicide Slums is in Metropolis. Maybe mention Superman. Ah, but that's the sweet part. Titans will part of DC Digital Service, which isn't an existing network. It's part of DC as a whole, which is what supplies Arrowverse with the rights to begin with. Unlike with CW, NBC, and CBS, OR the Marvel movie rights mess that's still going on, this new streaming service won't have to fight for rights. DC can simply allow continuity between the two.

Black Lightning not being included in Arrowverse was an odd choice, but I guess I can understand since he's not that connected with the other heroes, not like all the history Flash and Green Arrow have had. But the Teen Titans have had so much influence in characters part of the Arrowverse. Slade and the HIVE have already been on Arrow for crying out loud! It would be a really smart move if they tied Titans with the rest of the Arrowverse. Well wouldn't that Hive have disbanded after Damien Darhk died? I like how out of the two paragraphs that I typed up you took that one line.

How did HIVE form in the first place? One League defector went and formed it on his own. Another Hive loyalist could easily spring out a new HIVE, that's more closer to the Teen Titans version.

Also forgot to mention Brother Blood and the Church of Blood. They're heavily associated with Trigon, who is inseparable from Teen Titans member, Raven The rights can work, it is just really hard when it comes to Arrow using all these Teen Titans characters and keeping them involved in Oliver's grounded world. For example, Trigon on Arrow is a normal guy who Sebastian and the Church of Blood worshipped. Also Brother Blood is dead. You can't do Teen Titans without him I get that. I'm not asking for multiple crossovers. Just simply that there won't be 2 different versions of Slade and Roy running around when they have Manu and Colton's versions perfectly fine to use.

They can easily ignore or retcon the Expanded Universe material. Roger Trigon could be just a pretender to the real Trigon, or like some speculation I did earlier in that the real Trigon was possessing Roger.