User blog comment:Fedguy/How do we know the Gideon of Waverider is not the Gideon of Eobard?/@comment-28458080-20170406182332

Barry's Gideon was from 2024 and if we count the time masters origin from the point where Rip was recruited then it would be practically impossible for it to be the same. Gideon was invented by Barry but it seems impossible that he was too selfish to give his friends other Gideons. I think Barry eventually sold or distributed Gideons to his friends then Gideon became a system that governments use till it reached the guy who made the time masters and he developed it more and add it to the time ships.