User talk:Ninja72/Archive 2

Re: Philosopher's Stone
Sure.--Kir the Wizard (talk) 10:29, December 5, 2017 (UTC)

Aberrations
But they clearly said that Savitar and Thawne are Aberrations. You can't argue with that (even if what you say kinda makes sense).Itamar20112 (talk) 18:18, December 6, 2017 (UTC) No. I'm pretty sure it wasn't. Itamar20112 (talk) 18:21, December 6, 2017 (UTC)

Here is a video that shows the moment Savitar said that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwolEq2pmoE (skip to 1:10) Itamar20112 (talk) 18:24, December 6, 2017 (UTC)

You know what, I agree with you know. My bad. But, I'm still pretty sure that they confirmed on Legends of Tomorrow that Thawne is an aberration. Itamar20112 (talk) 19:47, December 6, 2017 (UTC)

The Man in the Yellow Suit
Actually it was confirmation. They were not just showing the suit, Eobard said "Merry Christmas" through Reverse Flash's voice changer. Тостер (talk) 14:10, December 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Fair point, although it was probably due to a prevalent fan doubt that there are two Reverse Flashes. --Тостер (talk) 14:15, December 8, 2017 (UTC)

Vigilante in Star City Trust Bank
That is actually a large problem which probably evident due to re-writes. I thought a lot about how he could possibly work for that bank and I have a few versions: he might have used fabricated or stolen identity, he might have had a hacker accomplice or, well...Felicity failed and combined two different vigilantes into one Mr. Ski Goggles. --Тостер (talk) 19:06, December 8, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Birth years
Joe tells Barry that he's "almost 50", thus he'd have to be born after 1967 (as the episode is set in 2017). As for Laurel, I can't seem to find anything, you'd have to watch the episode or check a transcript. —MakeShift (talk page) 11:36, December 10, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Earth Two Laurel
Sure! It's not stated directly however Cayden James refers to both E-2 Laurel and Oliver saying "your generation" as if they were the same age, since we know that James is aware of Oliver's true identity (thus also his age) and that E-1 Laurel was indeed the same age of Oliver (yet I know it's not always sure doppelgängers share the same birthday) it's safe enough assume she is indeed the same age of her counterpart, expecially since in last episode it was implied by Quentin that some details of the Laurels birthdays are identical.--Oilgof (talk) 12:30, December 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're right, and since "generation" means close in age i didn't add (born 1985) but (born c. 1985). As you say with Talia was estimated and i'm sorry, with E-2 Laurel is pretty much sure she share the age of her Earth One doppelgänger. They didn't say it cleary but there are plenty of clues. I don't think it's that much of an "assumption"--Oilgof (talk) 12:56, December 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * They didn't say anything about Helena being the same age or around the same age of Oliver, when an approximate age is somewhat referenced why not add that it's "circa" the character's birthyear? Then what does the "circa"'s proper use?--Oilgof (talk) 13:08, December 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * So being the same generation (meaning as you say close in age) of a person born 1985 and the doppelgänger of a person who was actually born 1985 to whom she shares details of the thirteenth birthday it's a less clearer source and less deserving a "c." than simply being a classmate? I understand Felicity, Eobard, Slade or Joe, cause they say in number the age they're close to, but honestly i didn't see all this difference in classmate and same generation. Expecially because the only doppelgänger i can remember we know the age (e-2 Barry) share the very same birthday ot his E-1 counterpart.--Oilgof (talk) 13:29, December 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * He described the same night he went to take same cake for Laurel's birthday, on the same shop, while E-2 Laurel was describing hers, implyng the only difference was he wasn't killed by a car crash.--Oilgof (talk) 13:36, December 10, 2017 (UTC)PS: My mistake, we don't know the birthday of E-2 Barry, don't know why i was sure about the contrary

"Aliens" category
Thank you for removing the "Aliens" category from all of those pages. In a multiverse that's full of so many planets, particularly in Supergirl where Krypton is so prominent, "alien" feels like an entirely subjective word. Like, a human would be an alien to Kryptonians on Krypton, you know? —MakeShift (talk page) 13:11, December 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * We've had a few issues with the scripts we use to run the bot, so it's been semi-retired for now. As for why I didn't do it previously, I guess I just didn't have the time in the moment, then forgot about it. —MakeShift (talk page) 13:30, December 11, 2017 (UTC)

Why Chas Chandler is a vigilante
John Constantine's team are vigilantes from the legal standpoint, as they are stopping crime, even if such are supernatural in origin. Have you seen fifth episode Danse Vaudou yet? Their interactions with Jim Corrigan, as well as Chas Chandler patrolling the streets in search of Misaki Ross are vigilantism at it's finest. Same could be said for Quid Pro Quo. --Тостер (talk) 20:37, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, but they were also chasing human serial killers (some of them mot being ghosts, namely The Man adapted from the comics - yet to see the episode myself yet) and warlocks who either way commit crimes. John Constantine was also assaulted by a group of armed people in the pilot, dealing with them. --Тостер (talk) 20:47, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

Killer Frost
There is a problem with that - Killer Frost that we've seen in Welcome to Earth-2 might not be the same Killer Frost from Fast Enough. Main difference is the costume, so my guess is that it's Caitlin Snow from Earth One from either possible future or an alternate timeline. --Тостер (talk) 21:08, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

Honestly I believe the image was left in the E1 Caitlin's gallery by mistake because when that episode aired back in Season 1 there was no E2 Caitlin yet. To change the E2 Caitlin's appearances on her page based on an error is wrong. It may be your theory but it doesn't make it right. Just see her costume, E1 Caitlin has not been shown wearing that costume, E2 Caitlin has. I get what you are saying about what Wells said but E2 Killer Frost appeared in Barry's future too, she appeared in Season 2. What you are suggesting cannot be proved, it is just your theory. Also being Caitlin from another Earth cannot be proven, still a theory but in the wiki's policies we are not allowed to do edits based on theories. I am sorry but it is E2 Caitlin Snow.--TG90 (talk) 22:16, December 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * Still you theorize that she might have changed her costume just because she seems to have taken off her jacket or that she is from a previous timeline. That is your theory. Again we are not allowed to make edits based on our theories.--TG90 (talk) 22:22, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

Main Antagonists Page
Hey, why did you delete the Main Antagonists page I was working on? I wanted to make a comprehensive page of all the antagonists of every season of the 4 main shows of the Arrowverse along with their story arcs. It was going to take some time, but still.--UdyK (talk) 18:19, December 22, 2017 (UTC)

I know there's a category for main antagonists, but the category only provides basic information (like the names and pictures) as to the villains of the whole Arrowverse. I thought there could be a dedicated page breaking down the villains by season and the story arc of each season along with it.

For reference as to what I wanted to do, check out this page in the Smallville wiki that I was modelling my page off of:

http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Main_antagonists

Even Gossip Girl has something similar. It doesn't go into story arcs, but still:

http://gossipgirl.wikia.com/wiki/Primary_Antagonists

I hope you can reconsider this.

So then why don't you just let the admins deal with it? Why delete it yourself? It's not your responsibility.

Your comment
Hotheadedbirdy just complained about a comment where you may have went a little too far in an edit summary. I'd suggest you apologize to her on her talk page. 09:17, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Teen Nora Darkh
I got the source from http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4699715/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t9 and I know usually IMBD doesnt have the correct information 100% of the time but the epsiode page http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6464552/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_4also states that she'll be on it. Plus it makes sense to put down Tuesday Hofmann as the child version of Nora since Courtney Ford is obviosuly the  adult version while '''they casted Madeleine Arthurt to be the middle version aka of Nora. Silver Infinite 23 (talk) 23:23, January 3, 2018 (UTC)'''

Little warning next time
Sure you can be frustrated. But you cannot be one of those immature people, taking your anger out on someone on the web. Not even those who are older than you. That's not what I want if you're gonna try and attack me. So with that in mind, I accept your apology unless you're going to start repeating the same mistake. HotheadedBirdy (talk) 21:28, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

Are you sure? If you believe that Metahumans only have genetic powers and nothing more, you are free to look at this Superpower Wiki about Homo Superiors. Besides for instance, Matilda Wormwood from Matilda, is a non-genetic Metahuman despite the fact she had trained to gain Telekinesis. Even Carrie White from the Carrie series can be also classified as one.

(Powers) ChocolateElemental (talk) 08:29, January 23, 2018 (UTC)

Don't worry, the whole point of Metahumans is that they can either have powers that are either non-genetic or genetic powers WITHOUT, having their physiology being or almost changed in consequence, of their altered DNA coding. Still, they come in two said classes. ChocolateElemental (talk) 15:58, January 23, 2018 (UTC)

Uh... TBH though, Mutants, at least truthfully, are corrupted beings that have turned into monsters, while Metahumans are just Humans that sometimes have to require altered DNA to gain superpowers, and sometimes they are Humans that gain superpowers through non-genetic means such as being enchanted, train to obtain powers like Telekinesis, Fire Manipulation, etc, having powers bestowed upon them by supernatural beings, and among other methods without any genetic experimentation. Non-Genetic Metahumans don't have to require magic to gain superpowers really, Matilda and Carrie are good examples. Overall, it depends whether they can be Humans with mutated genes or not. Just saying. ChocolateElemental (talk) 21:37, January 23, 2018 (UTC)

RE:I'm Sorry For What I Have Done
In regards to what has been written on TimeShades wall. Okay, so the things that have been going wrong is mainly your attitude, you seem to get pretty angry at other editors when their idea of an edit is opposite of yours, I understand that you may have worked hard to do an edit, however you mustn't get angry at them, you should kindly take time and message them on their message wall, and ask them as to why they believe their edit should be done over yours (for example above with meta's). As the way you have been acting is as if you're an admin on here, which I'm afraid currently you're not, so you can't continue to act that way. Nobody shouldn't be telling you names of people who're annoyed at you, pointing fingers and naming people is a good way to cause issues between such contributors, so I'll have a talk with him too. I don't recall at all mentioning that you called me a fag? so I'm going to have to look into this also, as false information isn't a good look on him as a chat moderator. For now, please refrain from arguing with other contributors, I'm only really on here to contain arguements.. maybe start them once or twice. Other than that I'll come in and edit when I have the spare time. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  23:09, January 25, 2018 (UTC)


 * You don't have to do that, if you lock your account so that you cant edit you're just making it harder on yourself, the thing is this is a community, there are always going to be arguments between people, but because of how much of a high edit count you have, some people will have edit wars with you, due to the fact they think that if you give up, they may get some privledges (Sky for example). If you feel like you're going to argue with another editor, the best thing to do is just back off for a day, save your edit to Notepad, and then go back through the article at a later date to readd your edit.

If it over stuff like meta's etc. to be honest, it's more a matter of opinion as well as what's confirmed in universe, after all Kara's abilities come from the Yellow sun, however she's also an alien. Livewire got her abilities, which I believe is due to Kara's kryptonian physiology transferring some sort of power into her. Those sort of arguments are valid, at the moment any one with abilites are regarded as meta's except for aliens, as they aren't human. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  23:22, January 25, 2018 (UTC)

Ninja, just to assure you, we haven't reached block considerations yet. 23:41, January 25, 2018 (UTC)


 * I re-added it, as you had said, because everyone is weak against magic, and technically everyone is weak against psychic attacks, so I readded it for that reasoning, so don't stress with that, like I'm still a normal admin etc. but usually only contain arguments because I don't take shit. Also I spoke to Nobody, I believe he got you and SkyNeon confused as he's the one that abuses other admins. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  01:32, January 26, 2018 (UTC)

RE:James Jesse
Both images work. Although it's argued that the modern one is just like a civilian image, alter egos don't exactly need to be their identity concealed and just needs to represent their current state. 04:31, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

Karl Iscove
In that business many people wear masks or otherwise disguise themselves, as seen with Simon Lacroix. Plus Iscove has a quite generic face. Considering how much people Oliver Queen have fought that face might have slipped easily, while his name might have stuck in the memory. Either way dialogue is a bit weird, to be fair. --Тостер (talk) 17:58, February 14, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Your Archives
Sure. The archive on this wikia is a bit different from the other ones I've been at.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 01:52, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

When i edited thea queen's page to alive (resurrected) why did you remove resurrected because she did die and was later resurrected by the lazarus pit

Kuasa
Now, after the last episodes (spoilers now),

we saw that the water totem was inside Kuasa, meaning that she DID get her powers from that, meaning that she is NOT a meta-human. So I think, this is now confirmed that she isn't a meta-human, meaning that no meta appeared in Daddy Darkhest. So, is it ok for you that I will change the appearance section in the meta human article? Itamar20112 (talk) 11:41, March 27, 2018 (UTC)

Oh. hmmm.... oops. Sorry if I ruined the episode for you. Didn't know you haven't watched it yet. And yes, I forgot Nate appeared. Personally, I don't think Nate is a meta, but if IHHeroes said so, I won't argue. Again, sorry for the spoiler. Itamar20112 (talk) 11:58, March 27, 2018 (UTC)

Num
I know it will have more episodes, but those episode counts on the series page usually only reflect the number of aired episodes. We usually don't change it until after an episode has aired. So right now, there is only 5. IHH dt  15:44, April 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Then we would have to change all of the other ones. The idea is to have a running count of the number of aired episodes and that we can include this info in different templates. Take a look at the other series. We only ever update it after they have aired episodes. IHH dt


 * (weird that my signature did not include a time stamp last time?) Right, the seasons' page have the total, but the series pages don't. I don't fully understand why we do it this way, but we do. I think because it follows along with Wikipedia and other sites. They only update the number after an episode has aired. So what me and TimeShade have been discussing some is in the episode template making it say "Episode 4 of 120" or what not. See my sandbox. Here we would definitely want the number to be the number of aired episodes. And so using this num template, we can just update it after an episode has aired and it will update all episode templates. Again, he hasn't decided on this, but regardless, I'm sure we could use Num elsewhere. IHH dt  15:57, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

Freedom Fighters: The Ray main cast
As far as I can see, Kir reverted main cast of Freedom Fighters: The Ray because now-banned Chowder95 messed it up again, changing it according to his vision of cast ierarchy which, while formally seeming more logical contradicts actual credited main cast of the series (Which really somehow includes characters like Donald: despite character barely appears, actor is in the main cast). It was a really mess-inducing edit, so it's no wonder that reverting it made a bit of a mess as well. --Тостер (talk) 23:27, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the information, I made a mistake.--Kir the Wizard (talk) 23:38, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Freedom Fighters:The Ray Season 1
Hey man! Sorry about the late reply, these days I kinda just view messages then often forget. I've been well! I've just started studying, so I'm kinda focusing on that as best I can. As for the second season of Freedom Fighters: The Ray, I honestly could not tell you. I didn't think we had a confirmed second season, but I could be totally wrong. —MakeShift (talk page) 05:23, April 5, 2018 (UTC)