Board Thread:The Flash discussions/@comment-28219731-20190515031247/@comment-31722073-20190601131439

Jey8000 wrote: Just binged the show in the last few days.

Super sad to see Nora disappear! But I have a huge feeling that a new version of her that did grow up with her father present in her life more than likely will show up during the Crisis event (would be disappointed if they don't do this.) along with possibly her twin brother, because I think that'll be surprising to see during that battle! It'll be bittersweet because it won't be the same Nora that we all saw this season, it couldn't be. Although I doubt they'll do it, they could drive the point further by hiring a whole other actress.

I do wonder how is Reverse-Flash in existence at all! I mean I remember seeing him on Crisis on Earth-X and it just didn't make any sense then, it still doesn't now. Anyways, I never understood how he convinced Nora that getting rid of Cicade would lead to a future where her father doesn't vanish, I mean I get it, the future will change, but not how it'll lead to one where Barry doesn't exist anymore after the Crisis event. Frankly the 2049 we saw to me looked way too hopeful! I wish it would've look less idealistic to show just how bad the Crisis affected everything, specially not having Flash around. But, I do wonder how many people working on Flash thought that they'll actually get a chance to expand on the newspaper article from the future? I mean, I don't think an event like Crisis on Infinite Earth could happen without having as many DC shows on air as there going to be this autumn! I mean I'm sure they'll use as many characters as they can, including from past shows from different continuities to try to reach the scope of the event as shown in the comics. I hope all the shows get used, unlike Elseworlds, anything less will be a disservice!

I do wonder if the next villain will be Red Death? I mean why mention him at all if they aren't planning on using him? But, since it involves Batman, does it mean they'll introduce Batman in a similar fashion as Superman in Supergirl? Or would it be a female version involving an alternative future version of Batwoman? I mean I've been liking the absence of speedsters as villains these past two seasons and Knights Metal is just so new and different that I don't know if it fits with the Arrowverse. But, I also don't know that many Flash villains, but hopefully they'll stick to a non-speedster, but I also feel it'll involve Reverse-Flash behind the scenes just like this season.

Does anyone know if Wally is coming back and also, why the actor was missing so much? I think it’s fairly likely for us to see a different version of Nora as long as JPK is up to it.

For Thawne, in the comics Thawne has become immune to changes from the timeline, presumably this happened to our Thawne too (maybe the Anti-Monitor brought him back to life sort of like Mallus with Damien). For Nora’s future, it’s just as good as Post-Crisis/Pre-Zero Hour reality ended up being (Post-Zero Hour was super depressing but that’s just the comics industry being made as depressing as possible for moneys, not the Crisis or even Zero Hour). The Crisis will be five episodes split over December and January, so everything will be in it. I think that Cicada’s dagger was also very important to the timeline, as well as the stuff that has happened in Arrow/Legends through the past year have helped to create this new timeline (as well as Nora’s time travel the first time), I also don’t think that Nora thought Cicada would stop the Crisis by being stopped, but that she wanted to help Team Flash and got some of Thawne’s help.

The Red Death is not and should never be a Flash villain, all the stuff that introduced him is still ongoing and is all focused on Batman. The Dark Knights are all about Bruce Wayne and his flaws, and they don’t just translate into enemies for the Green Lanterns, Clark, Diana, Arthur, Victor or Barry, it would be hard to do it with even Oliver. I think the main villain might end up being Thawne (maybe he’ll take the name Professor Zoom for fun), there still are a couple villains left that could translate into a Savitar/Thinker/Cicada, they could just bring in some replacements for the Rogues (or find a way to bring back an evil Snart and we can get some original Rogues).

Keiynan (Wally’s Actor) left the show near the beginning of S4 for no apparent reason, and he joined Legends halfway through their season last year, but he decided to leave the Arrowverse for personal reasons between seasons.