Board Thread:The Flash discussions/@comment-9346948-20170503000247/@comment-24693688-20170512070628

Xandermcc wrote: Uriel Exor wrote: Just watch my clip. It points out some feasible things. There are two Savitar.Yeah, it might sound nuts!!!But, I believe so.Savitar is a title. Not a name. The original whom we will name Saum(Saum is Hindu for speed) and the successor Future Flash. CW has the obvious identity theft pattern. Seasons 1&2 had villains stealing heroes' identities. Now it was the reverse. A (fallen) hero stole an ancient long-forgotten villain's identity.When Jay meant that Savitar was the first man ever granted speed; he was talking about Saum. Notice that Jay says, 'of Motion' while Barry calls himself 'of Speed'. Saum was a reality conqueror; who most likely lived in the same time period with Vandal Savage.So all this being said. We shoul edit the Arrowverse content for Savitar and make them as two separate individuals. Saum, the original and first Savitar. The God of Motion.Barry Allen, the successor. The God of Speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA7_08hOfRI We shouldn't, what you are saying isn't fact yet.

If you want to think that Future Flash went back in time and conquered worlds/realities->screwing up with the timeline. Then we would see Time Wraiths coming for him. But that never happened. Barry himself never mentions anything about that. Barry/Savitar never planned to rule the world. He already revealed his plan to make our Barry evil/emo Barry and kill Iris.

You can argue with me all the day. But CW does have the identity theft pattern. And that's why people are so confused regarding Savitar's/Barry's origins. And that's why many bashed Savitar being Eddie or either Ronnie('cause they were sucked into the Speed Force and could go back in time)

In comics, Savitar is called God of Motion just as Jay calls the ancient Savitar as God of Motion while Barry calls himself God of Speed. This was given as hints to two Savitar. That's why we have the titles: Motion and Speed.

But, I bet you didn't even watch my clip in the first place.