Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-28265951-20160421125919/@comment-3423279-20160610100800

Tman418 wrote: You know what, after this whole season, regarding time remnants, I just realized something: there is so much from Season 1 regarding Eobard Thawne & Wells that doesn't make ANY sense, especially as it relates to Episode 9, "The Man in the Yellow Suit". Basically, I believe that there must be some extremely sloppy writing regarding Season 1, or...Eobard Thawne created a time remnant!

I'll explain

Recap: S1 E9 was the episode where Team Flash lures Reverse-Flash into a trap for the tachyon device. The trap "fails", Reverse Flash "beats" Harrison Wells inside the trap, and escapes with the Tachyon device. Barry comes to fight with RF, but RF gains the upper hand. But along comes Firestorm and he intervenes. RF is clearly HIT by Firestorm.

Later, in Episode 15, "Out of Time", Cisco discovers that the RF stuck in the trap was a "hologram". And Thawne/Wells reveals his ability to do a "speed mirage", making it look like he's in 2 separate places at once.

But this is where it doesn't make sense. In Episode 9

1. In Season 2, ep 18, "Versus Zoom", when Cisco asks Zoom if he used a "speed mirage" to make it look like he killed (fake) Jay Garrick, Zoom replies "Even I'm not that fast." So here, we learn that even he cannot make a speed mirage of 2 different people in 2 different outfits. And this is where the concept of a "Time Remnant" is explained to Team Flash (and the audience). So therefore...

2. In S1 E9, when "Wells" gets "beaten" inside the trap, his head and face are bleeding and clearly damaged. You see his bandaged face when he puts the tachyon device on his suit at the end of the episode. So How the hell does he pull this off without making it look like he's bashing his own face in, or hitting it against the walls?

3. How could the "trapped" Reverse Flash have been a recording? When the trap "failed", he physically GRABS the tachyon device, incapacitates the other police officers, FIGHTS with Barry, and gets physically HIT by Firestorm. All of this happens while "Wells" is inside the trap device!

So if even Zoom can't be that fast to create two completely different images of himself, how the hell can Reverse-Flash do it?! Especially when it's been established that his natural connection to the speed force has been cut?

There is only one plausible explanation: '''Eobard Thawne created a time remnant! '''But if that's true, then how?! It was also established that he couldn't do anymore time-travelling at will in the "Tricksters" episode.

I guess the only other explanation here is that Eobard Thawne actually became the fastest mutha-f***er in the entire multi-verse! Or sloppy writing.

Can anyone else offer me a plausible explanation for this?! Because honestly I now fully understand the "time remnant" thing, but I don't understand how Eobard Thawne pulled off half the crap he pulled in S1.

Edit: I apologize if my question seems long-winded and off-topic, but after this whole "time remnant" thing, I can only see a remnant being a plausible explanation for this. Or, Eobard could pull it off because he was in in a smaller area than Hunter.

Eobard neeeded to move inside and around a building rapidly to perform that feat. Basically, run to his secret room, get his RF suit, run to the containment field, and then speed mirage it so it looks like RF is hitting him, when really he might just be punching himself in the face.

Hunter would of needed to stand in front of the breach, seem to get stabbed, run from S.T.A.R. Labs 1 through the breach, to his lair, grab his Zoom suit, run back, and then stick his hand through his Speed Mirages' torso.

Eobard had far less of a distance to do this and is possibly (along with Barry) the fastest being in the universe because even when Barry 2020 was at his full potential he could never beat Eobard yet Barry beat Zoom. Granted Eobard's crappy connection to the Speed Force results in his ability to time travel being removed, but that doesn't stop him from moving ridiculously fast.