Board Thread:The Flash discussions/@comment-5441128-20170524174933/@comment-5441128-20170712213959

Stryzzar wrote: Dragonfly82 wrote: Ninja72 wrote: Dragonfly82 wrote: Ninja72 wrote: Dragonfly82 wrote: Ninja72 wrote: Dragonfly82 wrote: Ninja72 wrote: Dragonfly82 wrote: Ninja72 wrote: Dragonfly82 wrote: Would Barry turn into Savitar either way? It's a self explaining prophecy, if everyone said, that's it. We have had it with your mess. As the time remnant did say they used him and throw him away. Do Team Flash put up with Barry because he is the Flash and he is in the edge to be Savitar?

Felicity believed she is not able to defend Barry. Like Oliver said everyone would have done the same thing if they were in Barrry s shoes. And besides Dante might have still died even if Barry did not change the timeline. What about the Legends? They do not seem to agree. They stopped the Time Masters and Vandal Savage. Besides that is a big if. Barry wants to go back and undo what he did after he undid Flashpoint and Jay stopped him. So I do not believe everyone would had done it.
 * Cisco: Okay, so apparently, it's, like, illegal to be mad at Barry, but guess what. He screws up, just like the rest of us.
 * Felicity: Yeah, and when he does, he feels bad like the rest of us too.
 * Cisco: Felicity, he took it upon himself to change the timeline. And because of it, my brother was killed. So there's no amount of feeling bad that could ever make up for that.

Sara tried to kill Damien Darhk in the past to save Laurel, if it wasnt for Martin, who talked her out of that. So, that makes Sara a hypocrite. But she still listen to Martin so she is not a hypocrite.

While Barry does things and ignores other people.
 * Damien: You mean setting me on the path to killing your sister.
 * Sara: I have already made that choice. I'm okay with it. And so is Laurel.

That is not true. Like Xander said nobody was there to warn Barry not to do it. Besides, when Barry was going to do it in Season 1 everyone was fine with the idea of Barry saving his mother. That was then, this is now. He choose not to do that.

Yes, but just when he finally got over his mother s death, his father was killed by Zoom. It is completely understandable to make mistakes in grief. No. he reovers from his mother's death. He lied. Speed Force Eddie said that. Because in Season 1 it was where he could eat the cake or leave it. He choose to leave it.

He didnt lie.. If his father did not die, Barry would not have saved his mother.

In Season 3 Speed Force Eddie said Barry lied about his mother's death.

The Speed Force is a douche. It has no understanding that Barry is hurt and in his grief would do reckless things. It's also unwilling to let Wally go over something that was Savitar's fault. Why? Why should the Speed Force coddled Barry? Flashpoint Timeline existed because they understood but choices have consequences. Wally created a portal and released Savitar. How was it Savitar's fault? He was trapped for centuries.
 * Speed Force Eddie: We gave you your speed back because you said you had come to terms with your mother's death, but you lied to us. You went back in time, and saved her. And, in doing so, you created Flashpoint.
 * Barry: Zoom had just killed my father.
 * Speed Force Eddie: We know, and we understand, which is why we allowed you to do that, but choices have consequences. And I am afraid we can't let you make any more choices like that.
 * Barry: Wally is just a kid.
 * Speed Force Eddie: He is a Flash. He made his choice. Now he has to live with it, just like you do.
 * Barry: I am not going anywhere until Wally is free.
 * Speed Force Eddie: Then be prepared to spend an eternity in here.