Talk:Arrowverse Wiki

Arrow Season 1 DVD
At last!.

A Worthy Investment
Received the DVD today. I'm loving the full screen, better quality of detail .... and cant wait to see the deleted sceens.

Front Page - Character List
Should Tommy still be on the front page as one of the main cast members? With his death and no longer being part of the show, he seems a little out of place among the rest of the characters. I was thinking that a good replacement (to keep an even number of 10) would be Sara Lance? Just a suggestion. 72.181.253.21 08:09, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

No, asTommy was a Main Character, Sara is still a minor character, so Tommy stays, you weren't the first to point this out, and myself and main admin discussed it and decided to keep him there for the time being. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  08:15, January 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Making a point to hopefully anyone that sees this, the characters on the main page are the main cast throughout the entirety of Arrow's run. I've modeled it off how Smallville Wiki have done it, I think it works quite nicely. —MakeShift (talk) 10:07, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * So why is not Walter on it? If it's becuse he is not a Main Character, I can just say that Pete Ross from Smallville is on the Character list and he left the show just like Walter did.
 * He said he modeled it off of how Smallville's is set out, he didn't say it was the same, this one if ONLY Main Characters. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  06:46, May 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * To be fair, Pete was at one point a main character. —MakeShift (talk) 07:58, May 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * This is relevant to the character list more than the topic being discussed. People commonly come to wikis like this to see vague overviews and photos of the main cast, etc. It might be a good idea to remove the big "DECEASED" from in front of Tommy's photo for the main page, because that's a pretty big and unnecessary spoiler, particularly when Moira hasn't got the same thing so it doesn't need to (and shouldn't) be there. Mirakuru (talk) 12:06, May 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure why Moira doesn't have one over hers, though she should. If you were aware of the wiki's spoiler policy, you'd know that we allow content anywhere on the wiki so long as the episode has aired. —M AKE  S  HIFT   (talk) 12:50, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Moira does have on on hers, though on some peoples wikias, it doesn't show up, the server is bugged like all hell since the DDOS attacks late last year, I can't see it, however from some computers I am actually able to see it. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  12:55, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Not to mention you gotta scroll down to see the character list first and at the top it says in capitals, and I quote, "WARNING: ARROW WIKI CONTAINS SPOILERS!". T . S “I can resist everything except temptation." - Oscar Wilde 00:01, May 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Will Anatoli Knyazev be added to the front page character list? - Immortal ripper (talk) 19:50, June 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * The front page is for people who are/were main characters  T . S “I can resist everything except temptation." - Oscar Wilde 20:48, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

Flash
Will the Flash series will be included on this wiki or will there be separate wiki's? 94.215.23.200 13:50, March 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, due to it being a spin-off of the series, The Flash will be here, however, someone has made a seperate wiki, but about 80-90% of their stuff is copied from here, and after checking it constantly, it's in poor condition, and wouldn't be worth checking out. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  14:03, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

Malcolm to the front page
Since he is confirmed a regular, will he be added to the front page characters. Also since the layout will have to change, and not be two rows of 5 characters anymore, since you wont be added any other people who are not main to the list. Buffyfan123 (talk) 04:04, May 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Malcolm'll be added as soon as the new season airs! We'll figure out closer to the date how the layout will work, but I'm sure it'll all be fine. —MakeShift (talk) 05:36, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

New Name
If there are going to be more spin-off series we should rename this wikia to DC something.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 07:48, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

nah we're not changing it to DC if anything it'd be Arrowverse or something like that, as everthing would be a spinoff from Arrow. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  08:31, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

That works too.75.85.81.167 21:22, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

Arrowverse would be perfect in that sense. Although I cant see there be more spin-offs anytime soon, until either Arrow or Flash ends. Buffyfan123 (talk) 03:27, July 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * There's been recent talks of a Suicide Squad TV series, or miniseries, so it might be a bigger universe! —M AKE  S  HIFT   (talk) 05:44, July 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Interesting I think a miniseries would do well, Birds of Prey would be awesome too, but that already had a failed series 10 years ago. Buffyfan123 (talk) 14:01, July 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yup, I think a suicide squad miniseries would be great.  Doubt we'll get another full series any time soon but 5-10 episodes would be great for the Suicide Squad. 17:15, July 27, 2014 (UTC)

Adding The Flash
Are we going to add the characters of The Flash to the front page when the show starts? Also, do you think that we should add the color red to the layout of the wiki? can we combine the colors green and red to match both shows? Strawhat1 (talk) 19:40, August 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Correct, we'll be adding The Flash characters once the show starts. And we do have red in the layout, it's the links, as well as The Flash character infoboxes, unless you're meaning how we have the top part of the wikia green etc, then no, you can't have dual colours, it can only be the one colour, and seeing Arrow is the main show, it'll stay green. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  01:00, August 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * OK, that's good. But what about Barry Allen, Cisco Ramon and Caitlin Snow's character pages? their infoboxes are green. I know that all of those character first appeared on Arrow, but they are all main characters from The Flash. they should get a red infoboxe. Will you change it when the show starts? Strawhat1 (talk) 06:40, August 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's all part of the SPOILER policy, since they only so far officialy have appeared on Arrow, it stays that way. 06:44, August 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Maybe you can lay it by dividing the characters box into threes, so half of the Arrow cast is on the left and half of the Flash cast is on the right.


 * Like this so both casts are side by side;
 * ARROW CAST               FLASH CAST
 * Oliver, Laurel, John      /  Barry, Iris, Joe
 * Thea, Quentin, Felicity / Cisco, Eddie, Caitlin
 * Roy, Malcolm               / Harrison, Hartley


 * Maybe leave deceased characters off and people left main cast, as the arrow list would end up being longer than flash. But maybe then I see, both cast lists would be even at 8 anyways.


 * Buffyfan123 (talk) 16:29, August 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * What I can think of is 3 rows or 6, but then someone Flash will be in an Arrow row. This will be hard. Maybe an Arrow row of 7, Arrow row of 6, Flash row of 4, Flash row of 3? Arrow row of 7, Flash row of 7, Arrow row of 6? Tnt ntc (talk) 06:38, September 21, 2014 (UTC)

Flashbacks
So what's gonna happen once the series has reached 5 years from season 1 premiere? No more flashbacks? Would be a shame cause the flashbacks gives the series multiple plots which means more suspense, although anyone with a brain could figure out what would happen to a degree like episode 2 of season 3 where Oliver was sent to kill Tommy but obviously that did not happen.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 08:01, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Flashback Character Status
I think until flashback character appear in the modern part of the series or until their fate is shown in the flashback, their status should be put down as unknown because we don't know of their fate.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 22:49, December 15, 2014 (UTC)

Quotes
Would it be fine if we started adding quote sections in each character page? I just figured it'd make a nice addition to the wikia.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 06:21, December 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Unless it's a good quote, don't really need to add it. Don't add something for the sake of having it. 06:34, December 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's what you admins are for, judging whether or not it's a good quote. Besides, I'm a very good judge of memoral and good quotes.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 07:26, December 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well we head the wiki, but we're not the sole editors! It's really up to everyone to determine whether a quote they put is good. —MakeShift (talk page) 08:19, December 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Course you're not the sole editors. But if there is any conflict, you resolve them. For example, if I put in a quote and you say it's not a memoral quote, I can't do anything.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 01:02, December 23, 2014 (UTC)

Languages
Should we make a section for the languages a character can speak? Cause I don't see how it belongs to ability or personality. If approved, I will start on it.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 06:56, December 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * The abilities sections have gotten a bit jumbled as of late, but it's definitely necessary in there. It's a linguistic ability, but of course it's jumbled in with metahuman abilities/powers. It still fits there, but some cleanup would be required. —MakeShift (talk page) 07:02, December 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's one of the main reasons I was critical of this wikia a while back but now I see that wasn't the right way of improving this wikia so I apologize or any immature behavior back then.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 07:41, December 29, 2014 (UTC)

Funny Thing
Anyone found it funny how the central plot of this season appeared in episode 9 for both shows? In season 3, the plot for Sara's death was the central plot but it slowly died out until episode 9. Same with the Reverse Flash for The Flash.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 09:37, December 31, 2014 (UTC)


 * The episode number is pure coincidence, it is because it was the mid-season finale so all the big plot points were saved for it. Ashrod (talk) 03:04, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

Cleaning Up
I started cleaning up some pages, namely Oliver and Diggle's pages. If the admins approve, I'll continue cleaning up, if not I'll end it here. I want to know your take on this so I don't get in trouble if I keep this up.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 08:51, January 9, 2015 (UTC)

Superhero Fight Club, anyone?
CW had recently aired that greatness. While it is not an episode, it is still much more then a usual promo and already has it's own page on IMDb. Is it only me, or page for this is needed?.. --Тостер (talk) 00:09, May 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Nah, it's redundant to create a page for a promo. 00:13, May 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Since Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow will be joining Vixen as a greenlit upcoming spinoff that will air sometime in the coming months/year, the name of the wiki should be DC TV Universe/DC TVverse or something like that since they are all in the same universe as Arrow and The Flash.
 * Supergirl isn't actually a part of the Arrowverse. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  00:40, May 8, 2015 (UTC)

Adding Legends of Tomorrow characters?

When the Flash joined the Arrow universe, red squares with series regulars were added on the main page. Will this happen for LOT characters, perhaps in blue? If so, would this happen now, or when the show premiers? We seem to know who most of the series regulars are right now.

107.142.37.58 02:07, May 17, 2015 (UTC)Squaredomo214


 * Yes, we will, just be patient. 02:11, May 17, 2015 (UTC)


 * I remember that for Flash, they waited until it actually premiered, so LoT and Vixen will probably get added in the fall. I think blue could be a good color for the LoT cast and Vixen should be orange.Tnt ntc (talk) 14:43, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

Character squares
Why is it that the Flash, Reverse Flash, Black Canary, Deathstroke, and Speedy still appear when swiping over their respective characters squares, but the same can't be said of Arrow (in any form) or Arsenal. Is it going to be based on condition at the time? That seems like a bad idea because then there's the arguement that only current characters should show up and the question of then should characters like Reverse Flash and Deathstroke have their alter egos appear since they are in jail or erased from existance and someones alter ego condition isn't always clear. Also, why are the crosses no longer on Tommy or Moira (or Eddie Thawne)? Tnt ntc (talk) 22:48, May 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * You do have a point for characters like Deathstroke but we do it as of now. Oliver Queen is no longer "The Arrow"(for now at least) as is Roy is no longer Arsenal. 22:50, May 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, Reverse Flash no longer exists, so does that mean he shouldn't exist on the squares? Same with dead characters and characters that have left the shows. Also, why were the crosses on Moira and Tommy removed? They're still dead, so why not continue to denote that?Tnt ntc (talk) 14:34, May 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Now that Roy appeared again as Arsenal, will his Arsenal square be added again? Lautarolynn123 (talk) 19:07, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

damian darhk
question regarding darhk on the rornt page. damian is seen as main cast on the season 4 page of arrow, will damian be added to the main page?
 * He's yet to actually be credited as a regular, though he's confirmed to be one, so we'll add him when he's actually credited as one. —MakeShift (talk page) 10:16, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Harrison Wells Character Square
Shouldn't there be a new character image added to the front page for the Flash cast since Tom Cavanaugh is still a series regular but is no longer playing Eobard Thawne, a new square should be added which would bring you to the Earth 2 Wells page.

67.82.98.17 00:25, November 11, 2015 (UTC)BHartigan

character squares
Should ray palmer be added as a character square? Should Patty Spivot also be added?

Athenabrain42 (talk) 07:44, November 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * As we've previously discussed, we include the main cast members on the main page. —MakeShift (talk page) 11:17, November 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, should we remove Moira and Tommy from the arrow section?
 * Thegamingknight4272 (talk) 01:01, December 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * As previously discussed, we include anyone who has ever been part of the main cast, deceased or not. 01:06, December 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Should we add character squares for the newly met earth 2 dopplegangers? Daniel.safe.35 (talk) 02:43, February 10, 2016 (UTC)

Damien Darhk
Shouldn't we be adding Damien Darhk to the Arrow section of the page as he is a main character this season?

Wally West Character Square
Shouldn't Wally West be added to the Flash character section on the home page. Keiynan Lonsdale was in the main credits for the last two episodes and most likely will be for the remainder of the season. 73.148.229.54 06:09, January 20, 2016 (UTC)BHartigan

Supergirl?
Question: With the revelation that The Flash and Supergirl are going to cross over, would it be possible to add the latter to the universe that this Wiki covers, or at the very least create an affiliate with the Supergirl Wiki?DigificWriter (talk) 03:18, February 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Check the affiliations ;) And it's gonna be a dimensional crossover, so likely we'll just cover in the bio sections. Still gonna be discussed among the admins of this wiki and the admin of SG wiki. 03:20, February 4, 2016 (UTC)

IMO this and the Supergirl wikia should merge into one. Like the wikias Once Upon A Time and Once Upon a Time in Wonderland did. If not that, on the various articles just use links to Supergirl's wikia. So for example instead of having Kara Danvers/Supergirl we would have Kara Danvers/Supergirl--Revan&#39;s Exile (talk) 03:55, February 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * I recommend that you share this opinion here where it's all being debated. ~Playsonic2 15:41, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

Eobard Thawne's picture
On "emplate:FlashPortal?action=render" a viewer immediately sees a portrait of Harrisson Wells under the name "Eobard Thawne"... Eh, spoilers, much? Maybe change it to display the Reverse Flash only, or the image of Matt Letscher, as the current version of the character's appearance?

Kir the Wizard (talk) 16:53, February 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * It's already been aired so we allow it. Also, we dont do Letscher because he's not a series regular. That's how we decide who goes on and who doesn't. 17:08, February 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * No offense TimeShade, but you've just made a rather hilarious mistake. Regular cast is basically anyone appearing as the same character more then once on the series, so Matt Letscher is actually a Regular. What is listed on main page is MAIN cast. The difference is seen in the fact that Main Cast listed in the beginning and all members of it are listed (even if some of them doesn't appear in particular episode they're listed because of contractual obligations), while regular cast is labeled under "guest/also starring". As for Eobard Thawne picture - it is something that bothers me a lot for quite some time - newcomers have their right not to have Season 1 spoiled. In my opinion, problems could be prevented easily if two pictures of Tom Cavanagh were labeled "Harrison Wells" (Earth One) (with quotation marks) and Harrison Wells (Earth Two). --Тостер (talk) 18:45, February 18, 2016 (UTC)
 * If you read a lot of news articles, there are many that say a recurring character has been promoted to a series regular, so my wording is still correct. 18:56, February 18, 2016 (UTC)
 * "Regular cast" is probably a neologism which covers both and was adopted for the lack of better thing. Wikipedia uses "main characters who were originally recurring characters" (though it uses regular cast, occasionally) and I much more often stumble upon "promoted to main cast", "main characters" etc. --Тостер (talk) 19:12, February 18, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well both ways can be used so there wasn't really any point to the first part of your comment. As for the "spoiler", anyone with common sense would know to be extra careful if they're behind and surfing an information site.  We allow spoilers as long as it has happened in an aired episode. 19:20, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

What about the earth 2 equivalents introduced in welcome to earth 2? Daniel.safe.35 (talk) 17:09, February 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * Good point, by the way, same actors of the main cast, different characters. --Тостер (talk) 18:45, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

Wiki background
This wiki has cycled through several backgrounds over time. Is there a category or something with all the files for the curious to look at to know when each was put in place and replaced?

Also regarding the current one: I realize having Hawkgirl there helps to balance it out, but does she really belong? She isn't the star of her own series like Olly/Wally/Vixen/John/Rip are.

If the proposed Supergirl merger ends up happening I think Kara ought to replace Hawkgirl unless Hawkgirl gets her own spinoff series.

I realize out of all of the Legends she's probably most tied into things due to Vandal Savage but Rip is clearly still the fulcrum of heroes here.

If we're going to display a female supporting character I'd much rather see Felicity up there, Overwatch is a far bigger Arrowverse role than Hawkgirl has been. Wasn't there even rumored to be an Overwatch spinoff show at some point?

Perhaps instead of 3 per side it could be 4 to side and we could also add White Canary?

Kind of want to see Spectre below Constantine but guessing might not be allowed so many Revanants. How about Palmer or even a villain like Savage? Heck, Damien Darhk has appeared in both Legends/Arrow, ol' Mumbo Jumbo could enjoy a spot. 184.145.18.50 02:24, February 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * If we do a Supergirl merger, she will replace Hawkgirl. Like you said, it has to do with Hawkgirl being tied to Vandal and Rip Hunter is still in the background.  Trust me, if we put Felicity, there will be a huge outrage.  Also, Palmer is in the background.  He's tiny and flying behind Rip's shoulder. 02:28, February 25, 2016 (UTC)

Zoom Theory (Works 100%)
Hello everyone, it is everywhere on social medias and on the Flash news, who is Zoom?

The THEORY I have for you is going to RETURN YOUR MIND! Everything works at 100% and it is easy to understand, I will use simple words. First of all, let me establish to you the characters.

Jay Garrick of Earth 1 = Died at birth, was the twin brother of Hunter Zolomon1

Jay Garrick of Earth 2 = Man locked in Zoom's secret layer with the mask, was the twin brother of Hunter Zolomon2 and was the Flash of Earth 2

Hunter Zolomon 1 = The associate of Zoom and the "false" Jay Garrick we see during the season, was the twin brother of Jay Garrick1

Hunter Zolomon 2 = Zoom, was the twin brother of Jay Garrick2

It may seem weird for your right but here is the theory that would perfectly match the mystery, the tricks and the hints they gave to us throughout the season.

THEORY:

At the beginning of the Season 2 of the Flash, we see 2 people fighting, Zoom and The Flash of Earth 2, when the black hole occurs, The Flash of Earth 2 or Jay Garrick of Earth 2 is sucked up to Earth 1. But where did he actually went on Earth 1? And what if before Jay Garrick of Earth 2 could talk to anyone, Zoom or Hunter Zolomon from Earth 2 would have captured Jay, brought him back to Earth 2 and locked him up in a speedster cage just like Barry Allen was because he was angry at him since he was a speedster too. Zoom is actually Hunter Zolomon2 that was angry at his twin brother Jay Garrick2 because he was a speedster and Zoom wanted to be the only speedster in the world. Basically, we never saw where did Jay Garrick 2 arrived went he was sucked up to Earth 1 and the fact that a person with the same face as him arrives at Star Labs, spectators are messed up and immediately believe in that it is Jay Garrick from Earth 2 but it is not. So I hope you follow me from there, Jay Garrick 2 or The Flash is locked up in the secret layer of Zoom. When Barry Allen is locked up with him in Zoom's Layer, Jay Garrick from Earth 2 writes the letter J-A-Y to Barry Allen. Barry Allen replies "Jay Garrick is safe, he didn't come with us". The Jay Garrick from Earth 2 which is locked up becomes angry because the message was misunderstood.

On Earth 1, Jay Garrick1 and Hunter Zolomon1 are twin brothers just like on Earth 2. Just imagine that Jay Garrick1 died at birth so he never existed. Hunter Zolomon 1 is in fact, sick of a disease that is killing him just like Hunter Zolomon 2 or Zoom. It could be a disease that they both had at birth or that the particle accelerator made to them. So Jay Garrick1 is already dead and Jay Garrick2 is locked up in the layer. Now Zoom or Hunter Zolomon 2 went to Earth 1 after taking care of his twin brother and locking him up, he went see Hunter Zolomon 1 as Zoom to terrify him and to force him to do exactly as he says and in return, Zoom would heal his disease. So Hunter Zolomon 1 by the influence of Zoom went to Star Labs and made himself pass as Jay Garrick 2 because Zoom would have ordered him so. So the man that we believed in as Jay Garrick2 was actually, Hunter Zolomon1.

When Caitlin asks Hunter Zolomon1 to find his doppleganger, Hunter Zolomon 1 shows him a man on the bench. He says it is "Hunter Zolomon 1" but in fact, it is Zoom that is making a trick with Hunter Zolomon 1 to Caitlin. Caitlin wonders why the man on the bench is called "Hunter Zolomon" and not Jay Garrick, the answer was that since they were twin brothers, Hunter Zolomon 1 just didn't cared about telling the truth about that. It may seem a little mess up for you, let' make it clearer for you. From Caitlin's point of view, she is with Jay Garrick2 and is looking at Hunter Zolomon1 and she doesn't understand why he has a different name from his doppleganger. From Hunter Zolomon1's point of view which is the man with Caitlin, he is tricking Caitlin by saying that the man on the bench is "Hunter Zolomon1" and he doesn't even care of telling the truth that the name is different, not Jay Garrick1 but Hunter Zolomon. From Zoom's point of view, he is on the bench making seem like he is a normal civilian but in fact, he is making with Hunter Zolomon1, a trick to Caitlin. Hope you followed me from there, Jay Garrick1 is dead at birth, Jay Garrick2 is locked up by his twin brother or Zoom, Hunter Zolomon1 is the man that entered Star Labs as Jay Garrick2 by the orders of Zoom and Hunter Zolomon2 is Zoom and the man who played with everyone.

Now I am sure you have the question, why did Zoom killed Hunter Zolomon1? The reason is that it had to have been an accident, Zoom just tried to go to Earth 1 but the breach was closing so when he saw that he couldn't enter Earth 1 and that he could only kill a last person if he wanted to, he just went for it. Zoom may have thought that it was Harrison Wells or Barry Allen but when he took the person back to Earth 2, Hunter Zolomon2 realized he had killed Hunter Zolomon1. At the end, he says it is a complication because now Hunter Zolomon2 or Zoom has no one to replace Hunter Zolomon1 except maybe Jay Garrick2 that is locked up in his layer but I doubt that his twin brother will accept to pass from the Flash2 to the guinea pig of his evil twin brother, Zoom.

This is the end of the theory, as you can see, everything matches perfectly at 100%. If you have any point of view that could counter the theory, please let us know because we are really trying to make a theory working on any hint or trick they made to us. Keep watching The Flash, tell us if you agree to our theory or just tell us a new theory. And you, what do you think is the mystery?