User blog:Kaestal/Top 10 Worst Parts of Arrowverse Shows

Here's my list of the top 10 worst aspects across all the Arrowverse shows, the most heinous flaws I can think of that plague most of these shows.

All aboard the Complain Train, your Conductor is named Kae.

Number 10 - Thinking Black Flash is dead
We saw him vaporized.

He was fine.

Stop thinking him being frozen is somehow the magic bullet.

Number 9 - Oliver's issues with Anarky in season 4
The fact that a bratty thug could force Oliver, a dude with 9 years of super-training under his belt, to team up with other people to equal the guy in combat was dumb.

I like how basically the first thing he does in S-5 is insta-win against that guy.

Number 8 -  Relationship Soap Opera Drama
I don't really care about who's in what relationship.

Making it have... well... Soap Opera drama is the actual problem.

Why can't we have a relationship in these shows where an occasional argument is had, but the characters resolve it like adults and move on?

Number 7 - Mayor Queen
I just didn't really like this aspect of the show, Oliver doesn't seem like the kind of individual that could run a city.

Maybe he could run it into the ground.

Number 6 - Time Travel (In General)
They really need to stick to a single version of time travel rules.

Also, the fact that it happens and a hero can use it makes most threats really inconsequential. By all rights, when anyone on Arrow dies they should give Barry a call and say "Can you go back and save them? Thanks."

Number 5 - Power Levels
This is just a nitpick, but Barry's speed should really be more consistent.

The fact that after dodging lightning (which no matter how fast his "reflexes" are he still needs to move his freaking body to get out of the way) and closing what is allegedly a black hole he is still stated to be running at Mach 2 makes a weird problem.

I can explain some of this away as "Well... Meta-human lightning probably isn't traveling as fast" and "Time Paradox!!!! Screw Rules!!!"

But, alas, some feats are inconsistent with the stated speeds at times, when it's like "I'm going Mach 10 and can be punched by a Gorilla."

I doubt a gorilla could react to something going Mach 10 in a meaningful way.

And Ragman.

How can a suit capable of withstanding a nuclear explosion, and then going on to contain a nuclear explosion, be damaged by an arrow?

Isn't a nuclear explosion basically a really big arrow if you really think about it?

No?

Shut up.

Number 4 - Barry's Continuing Intellectual Decline
He had to be reminded to run and Cisco had to insert order him to beat Solovar.

It's not like Barry should be able to think for himself or anything.

I mean... he was supposed to be a genius, the guy who made the thing Cisco looked at and said, "HOW IS THIS EVEN WORKING?!"

The Time Travel thing he had no real way of knowing bad stuff would happen other than Eobard's claims, and Barry has no reason to trust that bitch.

Number 3 - Demonizing the Heroes
This might need to be in number 2's slot but I don't care enough to change it.

For Arrow and Flash, this year was all about how evil the heroes were for stuff they did.

Oliver killed people who were on the List, yes, but it wasn't a Kill-List, it was a "Here are people you can say stop being evil or I'll be back to."

We literally see that it isn't a kill list in the season and yet it's treated as such.

Evelyn's an idiot.

Barry became some sort of horrific Captain America Nazi-mun in everyone's eyes for making an alteration to the timeline that, while it did result in some bad stuff for the altered restored timeline (and release Eobard), he had no reason to believe any of that crap would happen.

If Barry intentionally went and screwed the timeline and was laughing about how bad stuff was when he got back, then fine, Cisco and Sara can hop on the Complain Train all they want. All Aboard!!! says Conductor Kae.

Also, nobody seemed to recall that the Barry they were talking to wasn't the same one they knew, like a Steins; Gate plot where everyone keeps forgetting "We have a weird version of Time Travel, this isn't the same Kyooma we knew 2 seconds ago."

Number 2 - Hypocrisy
The freaking doctors who claim to "Do No Harm" and then shove things inside you or perform surgery are the worst.

In other news, Sara Lance was a total stupid idiot this season because of the Crossover where she was like "I would never break Time for my own convenience, Barry, you monster."

Oh, Okay, I guess you didn't try to kill Damien Dhark like eleventy billion times this season a near century before he should actually die.

The actual thing she should've said is "How could you succeed in breaking time, Barry?! I wanted to do it first!!"

Also, the typical hypocrisy that takes place in Arrow regarding whoever.

Number 1 - THE WHISPERING!!!!
I am not kidding, you can make all the stupid arguments you want about X how character deserves to die because of Y thing, but the actual worst possible part about these shows, all of them, is the freaking whispering.

A character will say "I need to talk to you in private," walk two feet away, then start whispering so loud you can hear them in space. And before you say to me "That can't happen, sound can't travel in space," all I have to say in response is SPEEEEEEEEED FOOOOOOOORCE!!!!!!

The reason I don't really care about the shipping wars other than how insane people can be about them is simple; I'm too distracted by the alleged secret Oliver is confiding in someone.

In Conclusion
I really ran out of things to say in the early parts, I made this in reverse order.