User talk:Kir the Wizard

Welcome
Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the Talk:Arrowverse Wiki page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! Wraiyf (talk) 16:54, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Help to rename an article, please
I'm just about to head out, will get on it when I get back home. Also, images should be 1280x720p and named a tad more properly, such as adding spaces and without capitals at the start of each word. We also categorize images by episode and character. For episodes, edit the licensing so it's as such. For characters, just add the category, "Images of CHARACTER" (not to be confused with "Images of characters"). If you have further questions, don't hesitate to contact either me or one of the other admins. 15:54, April 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Be sure to have all images be PNG and preferable no watermark in the future. 20:19, April 30, 2016 (UTC)

Hunter and his Time Remnant
Hey buddy, I didn't make that edit with Hunter and his Time Remnant, check the edits before you make false accusations.

Episode stills
Hey, usually we try to avoid using episode stills and use screenshots instead. Also, we avoid cropping images and only crop if a character's only appearance needs to be cropped for focus. there are already a wide variety for Hunter. Also, remember, each word doesn't need to start with a capital unless it's an actual name. 18:30, May 13, 2016 (UTC)

Naming images
Remember, each word only starts with a capital if it's an actual name. If it's descriptive, only the first word starts with a capital. Also, images should be named a tad more properly. Should be in a format of a sentence, not something like ""Hunter Smug". 08:18, May 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yup, that is the most current image of him in civilian attire. 08:21, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Sara Lance Gallery
It was removed due to it not being her current alter-ego, we only show their current ones, never their past ones, hence why Oliver Queen is now the Green Arrow, no longer The Hood, The Arrow or Al Sah-him, we change it to the current one everytime, so that's why it was removed, no point in having it. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  03:50, May 18, 2016 (UTC)
 * Eobard Thawne is shown has both due to the fact he changed his form, that's how he looked before he stole Harrison Wells' appearance, so that's why he has two. Hunter Zolomon has them as he went by both identities at the same time, going as both The Flash and Zoom to keep up a facade. It's not that she spent a lot of time as that character, it's because she's no-longer known as it. The reason we keep Zolomon with his is because to our knowledge, Earth-2 still know him as The Flash. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  09:23, May 18, 2016 (UTC)
 * Why does there need to be a policy for it? it's a matter of consistency, it isn't needed, if I have to add it to the wiki policies, then I will discuss it with the other admins and see what they think, however so far they agree with me

Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  11:14, May 18, 2016 (UTC)
 * You only see it as arbitrary because it's not the way you want it. I've spoken to the other admins and they agree with me. This conversation is now over, you haven't made any valid argument, if you persist, then we will put it in the guidelines. Wraiyf   You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  06:48, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Quote
Nah, quotes are always by the characters unless the character is only ever mentioned or doesn't talk. And in Barry Allen, Oliver Queen, Rip Hunter etc. we use their monologue. Wraiyf  You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back.  11:35, May 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * I think this is a very dubious situation. Generally speaking, we use quotes by the person themselves as it's so hard to find a quote that is consistently accurate by someone else. Of course, though, I think if someone were to describe them in an accurate way, a quote by someone else isn't out of the question. The quotes you guys edit warred over were all pretty decent in their own right, I'll admit. —MakeShift (talk page) 13:13, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

Talk page
Ive been pretty busy on Preacher Wiki lately, so could you direct any comments you make on talk pages on my talk as well? 17:54, June 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Stuff like admin protected pages like your comment on the community messages part. Since most admins are semi-active - inactive status atm, best way to get us admins to address such things faster. 10:03, June 15, 2016 (UTC)

Nyssa's mother
It was mentioned in "This Is Your Sword". It might've been spelt a tad different in the transcript. I believe it had it as Ameena. 07:08, June 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * I think just keep it open for now. I'm really behind on the tie-in comics, so don't really know. Maybe Lourdes is an alias? 07:20, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Meta-human page
I've removed the protection. 21:04, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

Time remnants
Hi, BlitzerSuperior here - I think we have a lot of work to do on the time remnants page - especially a rewrite of their mechanics.====

Cisco Earth Two
You are right I just watched a vdieo on youtube and he said his name.--Typhuss999 (talk) 22:29, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Renames, again
My apologies, like I've told you before, I'm so busy on the Preacher Wiki as of right now, so sometimes I don't reply right away and plan to later, but forget. As for the settlements rename, was discussing with MakeShift and we're mixed on it. While grouping them with cities makes sense, it can also arguably stand on its own. 06:59, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Laurel Lance E-2
I removed the fan speculation on that page and then you put it back in, aren't you the one who always says the fans don't matter? Kaestal (talk) 13:40, July 30, 2016 (UTC)

Pages
Remember that infoboxes would automatically add the category it's based on, so don't need to manually add them. Also be sure to DEFAULTSORT with names of people, so they get listed by last names on category pages, as they should be. Lastly, for actor/crew pages, don't forget to add external links, such as IMDb. 17:32, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Kovar
Thanks for pointing it out! I've checked the transcript and it's spelled as Konstantin also. 20:33, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Meta-human
We understand your concern about the questionable meta's. Unfortunately, as MakeShift initially stated, they weren't exactly referred to as Meta's. Deathbolt was at least referred to as one, despite not being in Central City during the PA explosion. As for Valentina, she can be arguably removed. If you have any ideas where we can implement individuals with some sort of mutation, you can leave a suggestion. 18:27, October 15, 2016 (UTC)

Mileva Maric
Yeah I know how it's spelt, however she was credited as "Mileva Maric" in the credits, so unless there's some article or something in the actual episode, it'll stay like that. —MakeShift (talk page) 00:26, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

Time travel page
A page for that was long overdue quite honestly. You've done an excellent job on creating the page, well done! 20:56, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

Time travel
Hey, awesome work with the time travel page. I wanted to ask, is it fine to acknowledge the inter-timeline casual loop theory of mine we were discussing - because that hasn't been debunked by the show. I mean, why else would future Barry stop 2015 Barry off from interfering and saving his/their mother? In other words - it's very likely he's his definite, future self - and by extension, Wellsobard = future self of Season 2 Thawne. But again - well done for making the long awaited time travel page. I added sections of timeline arrays and the multiverse's separate timelines onto it, along with bits of temporal mutability. --TheChronokinesist&#39;s Time Remnant (talk) 18:07, October 27, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Rip Hunter's team category
Ah thank you for reminding me about that, I'd completely forgotten! It's all fixed up now. —MakeShift (talk page) 00:11, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Please, rename this article
Done! and again, great work you've been doing around the wiki. Keep it up! 17:52, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

Alter-ego

 * Have lots of them. Probably will change a few times till I decide. --Тостер (talk) 20:11, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Eobard Thawne article start
The problem is, the intro to an article is the deciding factor if people close the page right away or continue reading. The current intro is even still a tad too long. 18:48, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * I definitely see your concern, some stuff probably be omitted from his infobox. But we definitely should make sure people stay when they arrive on his page and actually read the content. 20:40, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

RE: "Unneeded"
The Dr. Brice situation was a terrible mishap, but it was a simply lazy one. The images aren't necessary, as it can be conveyed just as well through text in a behind the scenes section. —MakeShift (talk page) 15:10, November 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * I guess worst case with that you could just use a comment to notify users of this, as such:  —MakeShift (talk page) 15:19, November 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * ...what? She's credited during the actual episode as "Laura Buser". The credits aren't always as complete; take "John Jr.", which is obviously not the character's full name. —MakeShift (talk page) 15:21, November 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * Haha, no worries! An easy misunderstanding! —MakeShift (talk page) 15:27, November 17, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Mari
Her page is now unlocked. 21:52, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Settlements
For now, settlements could probably be its own category for villages, places like Nanda Parbat, etc. 22:28, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Zambesi
Mind double checking something for me?? I myself haven't caught any s2 Vixen eps except for season 1. But yesterday 1 user noted that Closed captions says it's Zambezi. While the village is seemingly Zambesi. (Both spellings were used in Abominations transcript, but mind confirming before I move it? Thanks. 22:40, November 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I guess Zambezi means the people of Zambesi. 22:58, November 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * Good point. Though there are places like America, that doesn't necessarily refer to their government as the American government. Of course, however, we defiantly shouldn't necessarily say Zambezi is the adjective. 23:07, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Eshu
An exception can be made for images from Vixen, as nearly every copy of the webseries has a watermark on it, so it's really just the best image possible, unless it can be replaced with the same, watermark-less image. As for the alter ego image, that's not necessary, as it's not an "alter ego". He's just using the totem. —MakeShift (talk page) 12:53, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Page locks
Temporary locked them. Also, we'd like to settle the meta-human dispute with you some time. The best way is probably in Special:Chat where it can be discussed easier than via talk pages. Any time you're free to hop in chat? 22:27, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Meta-humans
Hopefully, we do get more answers soon, especially in the crossovers but we defitneltley should all come to a consensus on how we should address them during the mid-season break at least. 03:26, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Acolyte robe
It was perceivably not worth a page, as it was basically just clothes of sorts, perhaps I was misguided. You're welcome to give me a list of other pages, and if they're worth being deleted, then they will be. —MakeShift (talk page) 06:06, November 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * I was actually inclined to delete the first two. And characters with actual names, as a rule, have their own page. Plus, Turnbull's gun actually had multiple names, so of course it got its own page. —MakeShift (talk page) 09:42, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

Metas
The "Characters with Thanagarian mutations" category should be good to be added. For the meta-human page, list those other characters under "Meta-human status unclear" heading, and the other ones like "Other mutation source meta-humans" or unknown could be subsections. 07:47, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * TimeShade's gone to bed but I'll happily reply. I for one am much happier with that, and I especially appreciate your clarification on things like the Thanagarian mutations. I've moved a bit around (like the deceased to the main sections), but otherwise it's good! I wasn't really a fan of the tables, it added no value to the page. —MakeShift (talk page) 08:58, December 1, 2016 (UTC)

Character affilations
Just saw your message on chat. It could be a good addition, but would make a lot of infoboxes larger, aha. There are pros to it, like adding "ally of Team __" makes much more sense there than in occupation. 17:23, December 1, 2016 (UTC)

Eobard Thawne
I'm assuming your edit summary was replying to mine previous to yours. To be clear, I don't have a problem with the images themselves. My confusion was more about why they were all on the same page when they are more or less the same thing.

The summary is that if lucky enough, an Admin may investigate. I actually thought about writing to one of them to ask about this. But anyways, if the Admins fine nothing wrong with them being there, then it is not my, or anyone's, place, to tell the uploader, which is why I see no point of writing to him/her. Plus, I've looked through the user's Talk page; seems like there's some communication issues, so I doubt someone like me would get through to him/her anyways. Happy editing! =D -- S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 19:58, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

Page move
Sort of a mini discussion going on in Julian's talk page, feel free to put your point of view]]. 22:14, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

Content mod
Hey Kir, hope you're well! As the season is reaching its final winter finale and with the merge discussion mostly settled, we'd like to wonder how you would like to be a content moderator? If you're interested, feel free to apply here. After about 2 weeks you should be getting the promotion. Congrats, you deserve it for your hard work you've been putting on the wiki! 21:24, December 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * You just need to nominate, or to better put it, apply yourself. The only user right that is nominate only is adminship. Since you're applying yourself, you can ignore the accept/decline section. 02:12, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks great! Good luck! 08:58, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

About Eobard Thawne
Please look at this http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Eobard_Thawne#Is_he_really_faster_than_Barry.3F

Could you please look at it again?Ninja72 (talk) 22:58, December 10, 2016 (UTC)

RE'Darhk's status
Changed the protection. Defitnetley should have that his 1987 version self is time traveling to change his destiny. 22:27, December 10, 2016 (UTC)

Congrats
You're now officially a content moderator, congrats! When you get the time, we just need to quickly need you to hop on chat for something. It shouldn't take more than 3-5 minutes. When do you think you'll be free? You can just give me your time and I can convert it to my time. Or, if you see me on chat, just hop on. 23:37, December 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey Kir! I couldn't help but also come over to wish you congratulations! Glad to have you aboard the team. Hambergite (talk) 03:02, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Noticed a lot of speculation on Eobard Thawne's page
Hi Kir, hope you're well. I know you're on holiday at the time I sent this message, so I left it for you to see when you return. I just wanted to inform you that I noticed a lot of speculation on Eobard's page - ranging from his Legends self being post-Flashpoint (yes, most likely, but not confirmed in-show), him being told of his own future by Barry during "Flashpoint" (that never happened, as far as viewers are aware) and his goal with the Spear being to "restore the existence of the Thawne family" (simply put - speculation), across his biography and personality sections. I'm sure that the people who added these edits had done them out of good will alone, and the willingness to contribute, but they're adding speculation. I've removed that stuff, but I felt it's necessary to inform you in the event of them adding it back. I've also messaged User:TimeShade on this. Also - I removed a bit in the opening paragraphs regarding Eobard's Flashpoint-time-remnants-existence-erasure-escaping, which I presume you added. I did so because, as you know, it's a bit unclear on how Thawne's personal timeline is presented and nothing is explicitly confirmed, and I wouldn't want to populate them with info on loops, etc. Thanks. -- TheChronokinesist(talk 10:55, December 31, 2016 (UTC)
 * That doesn't confirm it, as this Thawne hasn't become Wellsobard, so he wouldn't recall that encounter. For example, when "Wells" was revealed as RF, it wasn't added to the page until his confrontation with Eiling - that's more direct confirmation than this. I'd be interested to know what the source is for the staff saying his motives relate to restoring his family's existence - that would certainly help deduce a proper personal timeline structure for Thawne. And I don't speculate, I theorise... with evidence :-). I apologise for bringing this up during your holiday, though. I thought you'd look at the message when you return, but yea.-- TheChronokinesist(talk 17:54, December 31, 2016 (UTC)
 * That's Twitter - it hasn't been confirmed on the show yet. On Twitter, Andrew Kreisberg revealed Jesse's full name to be Jesse Chambers Wells - it that accepted on the wiki? No, because it hasn't been revealed on the show yet. But its your call anyway.-- TheChronokinesist(talk 13:16, January 8, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Metahuman page
I'm confused what you mean, could you link me? He made a dodgy edit to "Meta-human" the other day but I cleaned it up not long after. —MakeShift (talk page) 08:10, January 1, 2017 (UTC)

Dr Fate's helmet Constantine cameo mentioned in script
Hi! You discussed the cameo of Dr Fate's helmet on Constantine when its article was deleted last year. I just came across a copy of that episode's script, which mentions it directly (as "Doctor Fate's Gold Helmet"), and started a discussion on the forum about whether that's enough to consider it canon. Would be great to hear your thoughts. Cheers. -- xensyria T 21:17, February 1, 2017 (UTC)

Meta-human page
Considering that Eobard said that he receated the accident, which gave Barry his powerNinja72 (talk) 22:47, November 2, 2017 (UTC)s, doesnt that mean that he created another particle accelerator explosion? I think he should be under the section Earth One partice accelerator meta-humans, not under the section Characters with other sources of mutation.Ninja72 (talk) 22:26, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

Removing the re-direct
Please remove the re-direct which leads from Solomon to Cyrus Gold. We need to create an article on actual Solomon here. --Тостер (talk) 00:48, October 21, 2017 (UTC)

DC Comics
We really don't have a policy on it, mainly cause I don't feel as if it's that much of a big deal. But personally I've been using "In the DC comics" to mean something akin to "In the comics brought out by DC", though your way isn't arguably wrong (though perhaps a bit grammatically iffy). —MakeShift (talk page) 11:53, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

Julius Caeser
Sorry for removing the Gaius part, I understand why it has  to be there now.Ninja72 (talk) 21:46, November 2, 2017 (UTC)

By the way, considering all the non-particle accelerator metas are questionable metas, shouldnt the people, who are under Speed Force darkmatter wave meta-humans be under the section characters with other sources of mutationNinja72 (talk) 22:47, November 2, 2017 (UTC)

You are right, the whole metas are particle accelerator ended, when Season 3 of The Flash started. But I still think we should put it under the other section, just so that there are not any inconsistencies. But I will not do it without permission.Ninja72 (talk) 23:15, November 2, 2017 (UTC)

Slack
Hey man, would you mind shooting me a message on Slack when you can? I've got some important stuff to talk about, I'm sure you'll like it! —MakeShift (talk page) 15:07, November 3, 2017 (UTC)

Alchemy
Given that Savitar s origin story being a speedster, who challenges speedsters, who threaten his power and everytime he sends a predecessor to prepare that world for his arrival was revealed to be false in Cause and Effect, I think we should redirect the Alchemy page to Julian Albert once again.Ninja72 (talk) 16:41, November 4, 2017 (UTC)

What Julian said "creating the lie that he was the first speedster, spreading the myth, and recruiting acolytes throught the ages" implies  that the whole myth about Savitar is falseNinja72 (talk) 17:46, November 4, 2017 (UTC)