Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-9346948-20160401041941/@comment-5139306-20160405211105

Kaestal wrote: He potrayed a different character in the same manner that Henry Cavill didn't portray Superman, they might be different than the comic book characters with a 2-D personality, but they were still recognizable.

If ya see that character, his mannerisms, actions and personality you don't go "Well that obviously is a character they made for the movie."

I didn't view the Joker of Jack  Nickelson  as a threat because the ridiculousness of some things he did that just made him look silly instead of threatening, like that pistol long enough to literally have to stuff down his pants.

When I see Joker do something my reaction should not be to sigh, my reaction should be "That Monster!"

Blowing up a hospital achieves this view of him being evil and uncaring.

Pulling a leg long pistol out of his pants doesn't make me view him as the monster he actually should be, more of a silly person with a gag weapon. No really Heath created that character himself, the mannerisms, the quirks, he did it like a true method actor. Its really quite exquisite.

Its wrong to compare Joker to Superman. Superman is a character that can be influenced by his surroundings. easily. His psyche in this regard can be as fragile as the world is to him. Joker doesnt follow in that regard. He has no psyche. Superman and Batman in BvS are in a darker more gritty world, and it clearly had an effect on them. The Joker can be put into any world dark or light and he will be the same in both. You can make him wacky or anarchic, but Joker is pure chaos, which cannot be steered.

Seems everybody wants to run down that movie. I don't know if thats what you were trying to do, but. Aside from scenes that could have gone differently, the characters were portrayed as you would expect them to in the setting they were in. You just need sense of understanding to see it. I'm baffled at how many people cannot. Batman for instance killing people. Batman's world (no matter if you choose to believe that he has this indomitable incorruptable superhuman will) is madness. Thats his world. He has endured this for 20 years without progress. Criminals he had spared numerous times spitting in his face, taunting him, causing him to regret. He cracked and seemed to have embraced it as the new way. What we get in BvS, while rushed, is a reorigination of Batman. A second origin. You're gonna get your Batman from here on out, maybe not in the prequel, but in the present timeline. We will probably see what pushed him over the edge, which most of us can already guess. Its just a matter of seeing it play out.

I don't know if this applies, but ima leave it. Its far from perfect but I defend it...