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It was a paradox. No one knows what came first Savitar or The remnant. It’s like What came first the chicken or the egg
But maybe it was made in crisis on infinite earths in flashpoint then he returned non flashpoint time
Crisis on Infinite Earths (The original version) was part of Eobard's time. Savitar was created by Flashpoint as an endless loop.
Yes I know just a theory
One Savitar disproved himself. I mean saying he existed pre-Flashpoint is kinda true. Zoom tried to get Barry to become Savitar in Season two, and that was when he created his first "Savitar" in a way in the form of a time remnant to sacrifice himself.
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i believe the cycle does have a true beginning with the time remnant that was used to beat zoom, flashpoint kept the basic identity of the timeline with slight changes, the slight change with savitar’s origin is that the time remnant lives. After he lives team flash tried to accept him but it was too weird and they ended up alienating him and he went crazy because of this. He killed iris and then went back in time and started the story of savitar the god of speed but eventually with the speed force bazooka the team flash trapped savitar in the speed force. but since the speed force doesnt work like normal time he escapes in 2017 before he had originally killed iris and slightly changes the timeline again so that he kills iris in may of 2017 then after iris dies barry tries to use time remnants to defeat savitar which creates a second “pre-savitar” who goes crazy after the team cant accept him and goes back in time to become savitar so he has some meaning in life, then back in the time after “pre-savitar” left they trap the current savitar but the myth that is savitar still grows as there is a second savitar running around in the past helping in grow until current savitar can break free...
so in reality the savitar that team flash faces is actually always the same one he just creates a secondary one to grow his mythos in the past as the one he creates get erased from the timeline when he escapes
Except Savitar said this time remnant died. Before you say that he lied, keep in mind he was telling the truth at that point because he had nothing to lose.
the which time remnant the original one from zoom or the one barry makes to defeat savitar and when did he say this
if you are talking about when he revealed he was barry i felt he was talking about how thats how he beat zoom but since he had to still go back in time things changed
also it is just a theroy of what happened the first time that created the endless loop
but if you notice if there are any changes to the time line or the universe in anyway whether you are a speedster or not you dont notice the changes when you return until someone points them out to you like its the opposite if you are part of the timeline that's change, like how cisco was unaware that dante never was meant to get hit by a car on that date before barry changed the team line but harry jessie and barry didnt know the speed lab existed until they were told about it.
so maybe other things have changed the time line while savitar was in the speed force prison so he believes one things happened but actually another thing happened that he is unaware of that caused his origin or its been so long since the original event that created him and they went through the loop so many times and he has spent so long in the soeed force prison he just doesnt remember exactly what happened so he believes that story makes the most sense