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<div class="quote"><i>WW BG SG Fan wrote:
I'm not completely convinced she is dead. I think her death was faked by Oliver for some unknown reason or this whole season was a dream of Oliver's because of his guilt of leaving Star City with Felicity at the end of season 3.</i></div>
<p>a dream he has while he's stuffed inside a refrigerator, dying of radiation posioning. </p>
I'm not completely convinced she is dead. I think her death was faked by Oliver for some unknown reason or this whole season was a dream of Oliver's because of his guilt of leaving Star City with Felicity at the end of season 3.</i></div>
<p>a dream he has while he's stuffed inside a refrigerator, dying of radiation posioning. </p>
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<p>just add the live-action properties that have crossed-over. dceu is in this multiverse too? doesn't matter until they have a crossover. Wasn't Kara's earth Earth-S?
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<div class="quote"><i>ZoomInTime wrote:
I can't believe the shows EPs decided to kill off a Golden Age heroine and the wife of the Green Arrow. I read how Guggenheim said the paparazzi ruined the death scene, but in truth, he just ruined the whole show, so I'm not sure who is really at fault. Olicity, which is what the death has paved the way for, is ridiculous and is only in the show for crazy fangirls (and some guys) who only watch the show for the romance. But the worst part of it all is that Felicity isn't even a good character, she lacks the ability to forgive, and broke up her marriage over a secret Oliver had to keep for the safety of his child. Not only that, but she is always crying. They say it is difficult to understand Flash and LoT without watching Arrow, I'm going to test that theory.</i></div>
<p>so will I </p>
I can't believe the shows EPs decided to kill off a Golden Age heroine and the wife of the Green Arrow. I read how Guggenheim said the paparazzi ruined the death scene, but in truth, he just ruined the whole show, so I'm not sure who is really at fault. Olicity, which is what the death has paved the way for, is ridiculous and is only in the show for crazy fangirls (and some guys) who only watch the show for the romance. But the worst part of it all is that Felicity isn't even a good character, she lacks the ability to forgive, and broke up her marriage over a secret Oliver had to keep for the safety of his child. Not only that, but she is always crying. They say it is difficult to understand Flash and LoT without watching Arrow, I'm going to test that theory.</i></div>
<p>so will I </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>MadHatterJervisTetch wrote:
<div class="quote">TimeShade wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>MadHatterJervisTetch wrote: Earth-S is a totally separate Universe that appered on a totally separate TV Show on a totally separate Network! What <i>if</i> the Showrunners create a own "Earth-2" for the Supergirl Show in which Kara meet her E-2 Counterpart Powergirl? </p> </i></div>
Technically, the show runners can create their own E2 for SG BUT, these earth's aren't really specific. The numbers are just for reference. They call E2 as such on the show because it's the first other "earth" they know of. E2 Wells called Team Flash's earth as his Earth Two.</div>
<p>Thats my point! ;-) The Supergirl Show can create a own "Earth-2" because the Supergirl Earth is their "Earth-1" When we cover both Shows on this Wiki, and The Flashs Earth-2 is a totally different earth as Supergirls Earth-2 we have two Earth-2s and completely confusion. </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>Yj Avi Mittal wrote: </p><p>supergirl is being handled by the people who handle arrowverse </p> </i></div>
firstly not completely the same people <p>secondly so is Fant4stic Four (2015) and X-Men Days of Future Past, also both Movies are based on Marvel Comics and they are still not set in the same Uni- or Multiverse. </p><p>Also J.J. Abrahams is the Director of both the new Star Trek AND the new Star Wars Movies, so following your argumentation means if the new Star Wars Movie makes a Star Treck Refference then confirms this they are both in the same Multiverse and the Star Wars Wiki has to add all Star Trek Pages now? I don't thing so. </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>Hambergite wrote: </p><p>Exactly. The shows are still a part of the same connected multiverse, and Earth-S acts in the exact same fashion that Earth-2 does, regardless of what labels you want to use. </p> </i></div>
Right, but the Core of the DC Multiverse is the DC Comics COMICmultiverse and that Multiverse included all different TV Shows, Cartoons and Movies as <i>different Realitys</i>. <p>And we HAVE allready such a Wiki, THIS: DC Comics Database Wiki </p><p>This Wiki here starts as a specific Wiki ONLY for the different universe that was created on the "Arrow" TV Show and was supposted to be cover only all that Stuff of the "Arrow-Universe" (Short <i>Arrowverse</i>) </p><p>With the creation of the Supergirl TV Show for CBS the Showrunners confirmed that "Supergirl" is set on a whole different World and that World is not a Part of the "Arrowverse". The "Alternate Universe" Thing on the Crossover confirmed that too. </p><p>The argumentation that we should cover all Supergirl Stuff because we cover all Flash Earth-2 Stuff already sounds wrong because the Earth-2 Stuff is a huge Plot on a Show which is set on the Arrowverse already and is not a one or two time Crossover Episode with a totally different TV Show. </p> </div> <p>fan4stic and x-men didn't crossover now, did they? </p><p>as for your JJ Abrams argument. do you know the difference between reference and crossover? </p>
<div class="quote">TimeShade wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>MadHatterJervisTetch wrote: Earth-S is a totally separate Universe that appered on a totally separate TV Show on a totally separate Network! What <i>if</i> the Showrunners create a own "Earth-2" for the Supergirl Show in which Kara meet her E-2 Counterpart Powergirl? </p> </i></div>
Technically, the show runners can create their own E2 for SG BUT, these earth's aren't really specific. The numbers are just for reference. They call E2 as such on the show because it's the first other "earth" they know of. E2 Wells called Team Flash's earth as his Earth Two.</div>
<p>Thats my point! ;-) The Supergirl Show can create a own "Earth-2" because the Supergirl Earth is their "Earth-1" When we cover both Shows on this Wiki, and The Flashs Earth-2 is a totally different earth as Supergirls Earth-2 we have two Earth-2s and completely confusion. </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>Yj Avi Mittal wrote: </p><p>supergirl is being handled by the people who handle arrowverse </p> </i></div>
firstly not completely the same people <p>secondly so is Fant4stic Four (2015) and X-Men Days of Future Past, also both Movies are based on Marvel Comics and they are still not set in the same Uni- or Multiverse. </p><p>Also J.J. Abrahams is the Director of both the new Star Trek AND the new Star Wars Movies, so following your argumentation means if the new Star Wars Movie makes a Star Treck Refference then confirms this they are both in the same Multiverse and the Star Wars Wiki has to add all Star Trek Pages now? I don't thing so. </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>Hambergite wrote: </p><p>Exactly. The shows are still a part of the same connected multiverse, and Earth-S acts in the exact same fashion that Earth-2 does, regardless of what labels you want to use. </p> </i></div>
Right, but the Core of the DC Multiverse is the DC Comics COMICmultiverse and that Multiverse included all different TV Shows, Cartoons and Movies as <i>different Realitys</i>. <p>And we HAVE allready such a Wiki, THIS: DC Comics Database Wiki </p><p>This Wiki here starts as a specific Wiki ONLY for the different universe that was created on the "Arrow" TV Show and was supposted to be cover only all that Stuff of the "Arrow-Universe" (Short <i>Arrowverse</i>) </p><p>With the creation of the Supergirl TV Show for CBS the Showrunners confirmed that "Supergirl" is set on a whole different World and that World is not a Part of the "Arrowverse". The "Alternate Universe" Thing on the Crossover confirmed that too. </p><p>The argumentation that we should cover all Supergirl Stuff because we cover all Flash Earth-2 Stuff already sounds wrong because the Earth-2 Stuff is a huge Plot on a Show which is set on the Arrowverse already and is not a one or two time Crossover Episode with a totally different TV Show. </p> </div> <p>fan4stic and x-men didn't crossover now, did they? </p><p>as for your JJ Abrams argument. do you know the difference between reference and crossover? </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>MadHatterJervisTetch wrote:
<div class="quote">MakeShift wrote:
<div class="quote">KalvinEllis wrote:
It should not be merged. This wiki should only cover shows that belong to the Arrowverse continuity, or multi-continuity if you will. For example I'm still a bit annoyed by the inclusion of Constantine's entire history. Making a page for the character is obviously a must because he appeared on Arrow, but bringing everything from his show here? Just because it's the same character played by the same actor doesn't necessary mean it's the exact same version of the character from the Constantine show. Arrow's Constanine never mentioned characters like Zed or Papa Midnite, yet we have them here. For all we know this might be a totally different Constantine from the one on that show. If they do a crossover with Lucifer in the future, should we cover that entire show, too? Whatever the case, the Supergirl situation is more peculiar because it's an Arrowverse hero showing up there, not vice versa, but I stick to not merging them. There's no point in my view.</i></div>
Comments like this annoy me. Wendy Mericle, as we've said a million and one times, has confirmed <i>Constantine</i> to be canon within the Arrowverse, hence it's in the exact same universe.</div>
<p>Wendy Mericle was simply asked "One time" if the Constantine that show up on "Arrow" is the same from the "Constantine Show" and she understands it that way that the questioning means "if John Constantine on "Arrow" will be played by Matt Ryan too?" and answerd "yes". And you guys make it like she said: "Yes its 100% confirmed that the Show Constantine is now set to be a part of the Arrowverse in totally!" </p><p>this Guy here has a very good point to this. </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote"><i>Quote:
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family:Helvetica;color:#2C2C2C;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">While the above answer is all well and good, I still think it seems a little much to include Constantine in this wikia. This is a one-off event. The Simpsons and Family Guy wikias have not been join together because of their crossover. Boston Legal had a character appear from Boston Public, they’ve been kept separate. I highly doubt Bones and Sleepy Hollow will have their wikias combined when those shows crossover. NCIS-LA with Hawaii Five-0. I could go on and on.... </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family:Helvetica;color:#2C2C2C;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">This is A Detective Munch situation. Richard Belzer has played his Law and Order character on shows like The X-Files, Arrested Development and The Wire. Matt Ryan is in the same boat. He's a character from another show appearing as a one-off. It's just a wink to the audience. Nothing more. </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family:Helvetica;color:#2C2C2C;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">To change this entire wikia is a waste and unnecessary. Constantine the series is not set in the same world as Arrow et al. Flash/Arrow/Legends/Vixen are all part of the same universe and has been planned as such. They're by the same creative team. Constantine is by completely different people. </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family:Helvetica;color:#2C2C2C;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Finally, even the article used as proof can be seen as ambiguously written as we don't know the direct question asked of Mericle and what the author added afterwards. Similarly, Mericle could have misunderstood the question. </span></p> <p>
</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family:Helvetica;color:#2C2C2C;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">I think it would be best to remove Constantine the series from this wikia.</span></p> </i></div>
<p>Also all this can be used to the actual "Supergirl" discusion as well. </p> </div> <p>supergirl is being handled by the people who handle arrowverse </p>
<div class="quote">MakeShift wrote:
<div class="quote">KalvinEllis wrote:
It should not be merged. This wiki should only cover shows that belong to the Arrowverse continuity, or multi-continuity if you will. For example I'm still a bit annoyed by the inclusion of Constantine's entire history. Making a page for the character is obviously a must because he appeared on Arrow, but bringing everything from his show here? Just because it's the same character played by the same actor doesn't necessary mean it's the exact same version of the character from the Constantine show. Arrow's Constanine never mentioned characters like Zed or Papa Midnite, yet we have them here. For all we know this might be a totally different Constantine from the one on that show. If they do a crossover with Lucifer in the future, should we cover that entire show, too? Whatever the case, the Supergirl situation is more peculiar because it's an Arrowverse hero showing up there, not vice versa, but I stick to not merging them. There's no point in my view.</i></div>
Comments like this annoy me. Wendy Mericle, as we've said a million and one times, has confirmed <i>Constantine</i> to be canon within the Arrowverse, hence it's in the exact same universe.</div>
<p>Wendy Mericle was simply asked "One time" if the Constantine that show up on "Arrow" is the same from the "Constantine Show" and she understands it that way that the questioning means "if John Constantine on "Arrow" will be played by Matt Ryan too?" and answerd "yes". And you guys make it like she said: "Yes its 100% confirmed that the Show Constantine is now set to be a part of the Arrowverse in totally!" </p><p>this Guy here has a very good point to this. </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote"><i>Quote:
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family:Helvetica;color:#2C2C2C;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">While the above answer is all well and good, I still think it seems a little much to include Constantine in this wikia. This is a one-off event. The Simpsons and Family Guy wikias have not been join together because of their crossover. Boston Legal had a character appear from Boston Public, they’ve been kept separate. I highly doubt Bones and Sleepy Hollow will have their wikias combined when those shows crossover. NCIS-LA with Hawaii Five-0. I could go on and on.... </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family:Helvetica;color:#2C2C2C;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">This is A Detective Munch situation. Richard Belzer has played his Law and Order character on shows like The X-Files, Arrested Development and The Wire. Matt Ryan is in the same boat. He's a character from another show appearing as a one-off. It's just a wink to the audience. Nothing more. </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family:Helvetica;color:#2C2C2C;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">To change this entire wikia is a waste and unnecessary. Constantine the series is not set in the same world as Arrow et al. Flash/Arrow/Legends/Vixen are all part of the same universe and has been planned as such. They're by the same creative team. Constantine is by completely different people. </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family:Helvetica;color:#2C2C2C;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Finally, even the article used as proof can be seen as ambiguously written as we don't know the direct question asked of Mericle and what the author added afterwards. Similarly, Mericle could have misunderstood the question. </span></p> <p>
</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Helvetica; mso-bidi-font-family:Helvetica;color:#2C2C2C;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">I think it would be best to remove Constantine the series from this wikia.</span></p> </i></div>
<p>Also all this can be used to the actual "Supergirl" discusion as well. </p> </div> <p>supergirl is being handled by the people who handle arrowverse </p>
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