The Flash spent half a season on the item and it gave powers to various Flashpoint metas. Later, Savitar explained that it was calcified speed force.
Later, Clotho said the stone was not real and the books linked it to Merlin.
Are these more Crisis changes? How does speed force grant powers other than speed to people? Is origin of the stone different now: Merlin's invention instead of Savitar's. Were the LoT writers being mean to The Flash writers?
Thanks for the help before, hoping you can repeat yourself...
I'll be honest: I've actually stopped seeing Legends of Tomorrow before season 4 even ended, the first two seasons were quite good, the third was terrible (they should be all sentenced to a life in jail for deliberately destroying history. No excuse. Three seasons speaking about protecting timeline and then "Ya know what? Scr** it! Let's just mess everything up and joke about it") but I enjoyed the acting, Mr. and Mrs Routh in particular. In season four everything became a comedy. What they did should have consequences in the arrowverse but it didn't. At the beginning of season four they broke the timeline and the writers expected us to just accept it didn't have any major impact in the others show? Since that very season they even stop joining the crossovers and usually began airing later than other show so, apart for my personal complain, I don't see anything in LoT as canon, that show is exactly what it's written to be: Arrowverse's joke. Is a never ending comedy who began with a quest to save the timeline from Vandal Savage and ended with a bunch of irresponsible uncontrolled criminals who fights magical creatures while the government tried to build a sort of fantasy disneyland...
For the Philosopher's Stone in 'The Flash' is calcified speed force and gave powers to people who had them in the pre-Flashpoint timeline because it was connected with that universe, so it turned the individuals on which it was used into their pre-Flashpoint selves, sort of. That said, the term "Philosopher's stone" was given to Dr. Alchemy/Savitar's artifact and it's just a nickname since the actual "Philosopher's stone" is a legendary alchemical substance capable of turning metals into gold.
My suggestion is not to take anything they say in LoT too seriously, the show itself didn't do it. I'm at the point in which I honestly doubt they even consult the other shows' writers...
Moreover: In LoT season 2 they shown that Merlin never actually existed since it was Stargirl who posed as a wizard after being sent to Camelot, now in season 5 they said that it existed and created the Philosopher's stone? The writing is too unconsistent
I 90% agree with you: the original premise of Legends is that you do not matter, you won't be missed. So, i see your point. Poor Wally...
okay. i'll do it your way. i was trying to get an ally that there should be a separate page for the two stones, but then again, who says that Clotho knows what she is talking about. The inconsistent writing is the biggest answer. LoT is a running joke to pay multi-episode contracts and still have the actors work for the money; the writers do seem to be their own entity with no editors. Let's see if the zombie apocalypse is even mentioned in other shows...
Ahahah thank for "loving" my writing, coming from the person Who correct all of my grammar mistakes is one hell of a compliment:-D
Thank you by the way, I'm half-Canadian but I usually speak Italian or Russian, only my mother speak english, so I'm never really sure about what I write. I'm really glad for your fixing:-)
PS: the zombie apocalypse would of course be the first apocalypse in the history of television that will pass unnoticed to the media.
You're welcome. I was in a high school with alot of people where American English (as opposed to English-English which is VERY different) was not the first language so i learned to appreciate the little flaws that show me that difference.
Cisco keeps up with everything; he even took a world tour to verify the new Earth-Prime. If he doesn't mention it next year (unless of course the whole timeline gets erased), then LoT is....crap. ;(
Well, even the whole "erasing the timeline again and again" is a little weak as a way to cover the holes in LoT plot every year... especially since it never actually fixed everything and should cause more changing. Without being psychic I'm 100% sure the zombie apocalypse won't get even a slight mention in the form of a newspaper article next year... goddamn Beebo is the only connection between LoT and the Arrowverse:(
PS: by this sentence "(as opposed to English-English which is VERY different)" may I assume you're British? Just curiosity, you don't need to answer;-)
explain something to me please. Why was Luke under the impression that he had the only piece of Krypton when, over in "Supergirl", she was getting killed by it and required a protective suit? Where did Luke get his info?
He probably meant the only piece of Kryptonite in Gotham. However even in "Supergirl" Kryptonite is quite rare: being an extraterrestrial mineral, on Earth there's only a few champions, most of them were stored at the D.E.O.'s headquarters, where the Leviathan dude stole it the last Supergirl episode (Don't remember the name, nowaday I only watch "Supergirl" due to Mr. Cryer's Lex Luthor wich is awesome!)
Moreover, it's likely Luke doesn't perceive the Kryptonite in National City as a danger since National City is in Southern California while Gotham is on the western shores of Lake Michigan (meybe Illinois), as seen here... despite we can't report said information due to wiki policy. So there's like 2.086,0 mi... while Alice is a notorious criminal who can't came that far safely. Of course IMHO.
I hoped that it would have been Metropolis twin city like in the comics, they likely change it because of the location where the exterior where shot (which was chosed to be Chicago due to Nolan's movie).
Right, when it was announced that Cryer would have been Lex - my favourite villain ever, BTW - i was crying a bit, couldn't be more wrong... hope he became a regular in "Superman & Lois", nobody deserved it more than him!
PS: Right now is Bruce Wayne casting who doesn't quite convinced me (not a big fan of Warren Christie in "Alpha":-/) I hope to change my mind... truth be told, on my wish list the perfect actors would have been Jensen Ackles (who will end his commitment with "Supernatural" this year) or Agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Brett Dalton...
both your wishes are too close to their last job to get it in my opinion. This is the last season of AoS; the likelihood of Dalton appearing is extremely high. Ackles might want a break from the CW network for a while after Smallville and Supernatural for twenty years...
Right, but Padalecky was on there for the same amount of time and he's already back on CW for "Walker Texas Ranger" so my hopes where high for Ackles, while if he appeared on the last season of AoS Dalton would have been on set as a guest, thus would have had enought of time to guest star in Batwoman season 1 for a cameo...
But of course, this is simply me not liking Chistie and I hope he matured as an actor since Alpha... after all Amell was what in Italy we use to call "un cane" (not quite a good actor) when "Arrow" began airing, IMHO, and he grew up really a lot as it progressed, eventually breaking my heart in more than a scene with his performance, so who know...:-)
Hello, I just wanted to ask you if you knew when Lucius Fox was killed, because most of the articles say he was killed in 2015 but in the new episode I saw last night, Miguel Robles said he killed him 4 years ago and spent those 4 years covering it up. Now, I am a little confused with the timeline, but the year now is 2020. so if Robles killed Lucius 4 years ago, doesn't that mean Lucius died in 2016, not 2015? Can I change it?