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## Harley Quinn

Why Harley Quinn is not edited on "characters dc comics" ??

Because she wasn't OFFICIALLY added into the show, just referenced. It was later said that it was her, but it isn't officially her. Wraiyf You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back. 12:57, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

ok, but it was not announced that it will appear in season 3?

Where is Cyrus Gold ??

## Locked

It was locked because of the confusion earlier and I guess Makeshift forgot to unlock it. Besides what happened earlier, there wasn't really any vandal. I unlocked the page, hopefully MS is ok with it.TIMESHADE |Talk/Wall| - |C| 06:19, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Does anybody know if Linda Park who is going to appear on The Flash, is considered to be the same one who made a cameo on Arrow last year? I am not sure if I have to include her in the upcoming characters on The Flash or just leave her be listed on Arrow's list.-- TG90 (talk page) 3:19, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

## A Few Corrections

I felt that I need to explain my corrections to the page:
1) Ankov is actually a character from the comics with only appearance in World's Finest Comics #114 (December 1960).
2) Vincent Steelgrave is obviously based on Professor Steelgraves from the comics, both being illegal market fencers.
3) Greg Osbourne is also based on a character from the comics. Some would say that in name only, but it is can be said about many characters in both shows, from Constantine Drakon to Eddie Thawne. In my opinion they're all cases of loosely based/creatively adapted chracters. I like such.
4) I've added Lisa Snart to characters who have already appeared, because, well, she's already was seen and it's only an inch more brief to how Mick Rory was seen on his first appearance.
--Тостер (talk) 18:27, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

## A Few More Corrections

I've thought a lot before doing that, but I've eventually added Anthony Bellows and Harrison Wells to Characters from the DC comics. They both have reasons for that in my opinion (which I've already stated in the notes, but will gladly repeat here with a few additional details):
1) While Anthony Bellows originated as a character in 1990 "The Flash" TV Series, he also appeared in a tie-in comic book Flash TV Special #1, so technically he is a character from DC Comics.
2) Situation with Harrison Wells is much more tricky - not only he seems to be partially based on Garrison Slate, but he's also too similar to a character named Dr. Wells in Flash TV Special #1 for it to be just a coincidence: in the comic Wells is a wheelchair-bound scientist villain considered deceased, who's usually wearing black with his special costume bearing yellow theme. Also, special device gives him the ability to be at two places simulataneously with second body being unstable enought to phase through solid objects. I bet that showrunners of The Flash have read the comic because they're obviously are big fans of the 1990 TV Series.
--Тостер (talk) 23:54, May 2, 2015 (UTC)

Generally when we talk about characters from the comics, we mean nothing that is from any tie in comics.TIMESHADE |Talk/Wall| - |C| 00:00, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
In this case we hae to deal with media expansion - Gotham Wiki has more problems with that with Copperhead/Larissa Diaz being based more on the recenet videogame Copperhead then any comic book character of the same name. While with Bellows, I agree, it is a little bit of a stretch (but still a little one), with Wells it is much more difficult, because his character orignated in DC Comics, despite them being tie-in for now defunct TV series. I may be wrong but I think it's just not really fair not to list Wells and Bellows here considerng that they were in the comic book before The Flash started, especially since we have notes for such cases. --Тостер (talk) 00:34, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

## "Referenced" characters

I've had a question for quite some time, but squashed it down when I thought I saw a pattern; now something has come up (belatedly realized) so I decided to ask the standards. Originally I thought only characters with actual names (not alter ego's name) get to be listed on this page, seeing that that seemed to be the case when Rita Farr gets to be listed while Blue Devil, who was also referenced in the same episode (and had been referenced way back in Arrow S2), was not. Basing on that thought, I didn't think Nighthawk and Cinnamon fit the criteria as they were referenced with their alter ego names as well. However, I'm bringing all this up because I literally only notice "Green Arrow" and "Hawkgirl" being listed amongst referenced characters of The Flash. Are they listed because they were in-universely stated as characters' secret identities? --Sammm✦✧(talk) 18:04, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

I think we should include these names, as they are characters from the comics. You have a point with Green Arrow and Hawkgirl. Also remember that none of them were actually being used during the time period they were mentioned (Oliver was still Arrow and Kendra hadn't even made an appearance). Besides as long as they don't have any other names, unrelated with the comics, then we don't really have a problem as they are just referenced characters. --TG90(talk) 04:45, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
Well, it's more to do with actual characters, rather than references, as Blue Devil was mentioned as a film, thus making any sort of character fictional (within the universe). —MakeShift (talk page) 09:09, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah... in regards to that, Rita Farr could also be just a "fictional character" for the poster didn't exactly say (if it did we probably wouldn't be able to see it) it's a documentary and the film title was "The Rita Farr Story"; could be just a fictional story. The starring actress credited someone else. I actually tried to find if it was another easter egg but failed to find anything too relevant. But yeah, thanks for confirming the general idea of it! xD --Sammm✦✧(talk) 09:17, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
Ah, I didn't even notice that. In which case, yeah Rita Farr should probably be removed. —MakeShift (talk page) 11:23, August 29, 2015 (UTC)
K, I've double-checked my screenshots in case I got hers with Nighthawk and Cinnamon's situation confused, but nope, the name on RF's (lol) poster is "Natalie Simon"; besides actually having an imdb page (but so far the info on there doesn't seem relevant), really can't find significancy of the name, so I've removed her from the list for now. Hope that's alright! =] --Sammm✦✧(talk) 23:27, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

## Locations and Items from the comics

I propose we add locations and items from the comics as well. Several of them actually are part of the Arrowverse and many other wikis do the same thing. We can list them separately on different pages or add them to the already existing one along with the characters but just in different sections and modify the page a bit. Through that we can also add the now removed "referenced" characters under a Miscellaneous/Other section along with several other Easter eggs that do not fit the criteria to be added in other lists.--TG90(talk) 16:42, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

Personally I find it tiresome to scroll up and down on a super long page (even though sometimes ctrl/command F helps, you'd have to know what you're finding in order for that to work), so even though I like the idea of listing locations and items from the comics, I'm not for adding them to the article this Talk page is about. Then again I also don't know exactly how many of those easter egg places/objects have appeared, and I'm not exactly feeling the wiki being in need of another new extremely short pages... So... perhaps... you could work on it as a User page first and then present it to the admins? bahaha. Just to get the general idea of how it'd look like, I guess. But then again I guess you can also just go ahead and create it and if they don't think it's needed, they'd just delete it lol. Not sure which option is more to your liking. (both requires effort anyways) --Sammm✦✧(talk) 18:48, August 30, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the idea. I've already created a user page, that shows how the actual page could look like. I've have included most of the info that I got from pages in this wiki and some extra Easter eggs that I found. I am aware that it might need a little bit of work but it is definitely a good start and I am willing to keep updating and working on it. I hope the admins will take under consideration to make it an actual page, as it has a lot of potential especially with all these shows that return and start this year and all the new stuff they are going to introduce. You can find the article here.--TG90(talk) 02:43, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

## Alternate universe characters

I am not sure if it is wise for us to add all the alternate versions of each character on the list, simply because they have the same name. If every villain of the week from Earth 2 is gonna have a doppelganger on Earth 1 then half of the list is gonna have duplicate names. I am suggesting we only add the character, who is the actual adaptation from the comics or at least closer to the comic book character. For instance, Al Rothstein of Earth 2 should only be on the list as he is the Atom Smasher, like in the comics and not the Earth 1 version, who is a dead welder. Only the one, who is the Atom Smasher and a metahuman should be considered a comic book character as the other one is basically a creation of the show. We can simply mention the Earth 1 version on the Notes. Only if there are doppelgangers, who each match a separate version of the character from the comics, we should add both on the list. I believe that way we will save lots of space and it might be less confusing.--TG90(talk) 00:34, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

I noticed the same thing was done on Eddie Slick by another user so I guess this is the way to go. I did the same to Rothstein as well.--TG90(talk) 01:38, October 14, 2015 (UTC)
In light of the recent appearances of more characters from Earth-2, I think we should clear some things up for future reference. My two above statements, I think, are pretty clear on what it would be better for the article to do. Only the character, who represents the actual comic book version should be on the list, no matter what Earth he/she comes from. For instance, Rothstein and Slick' Earth-2 counterparts are only included because they are the ones, who are Atom-Smasher and Sand Demon. So when Killer Frost makes her debut on the show, Catlin Snow from Earth-1 should be removed from Arrow's list, and only the Earth-2 version should be kept. If a comic book character's doppelganger is also a comic book character but a separate one, then both should be kept on the list. For example, both Linda Park and Dr. Light (Kimiyo Hoshi) exist in the comics, but are totally separate and unrelated, they aren't eachother's doppelganger. That is why both of them are on the list but Dr Light is listed only by her alias. Another example is Jay Garrick and Hunter Zolomon, they are eachother's doppelgangers on the show but totally separate characters in the comics. Ronnie Raymond of Earth-2 is also going to be listed because he is another comic book character, Deathstorm. If he was the same old Firestorm or just a human Ronnie, then we would only keep the Earth-1 version but now that he will be another new character from the comics he should be listed as well. If someone disagrees or has to offer another way to list the characters, please be free to express your opinion.--TG90(talk) 06:32, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

## A Few Arising Questions

The first one is what should we do with a decomposite character like McSnurtle which was first referenced as a fictional character by Iris West in Revenge of the Rogues and then we get a real turtle in Borrowing Problems from the Future? Second question is that I think we might consider re-grouping tie-in characters into a single category, as Joker was recently added as a comic book tie-in character, while he is actually, a web page tie-in character. --Тостер (talk) 08:06, February 24, 2017 (UTC)

## Characters from other sources appearing in the comics

You did lots of great work with the page Тостер. I see what you did there with all the new categories. I definitely want to work on them too so we can improve it. My only dilemma is with the Characters from other sources appearing in the comics category. This page is specifically for DC properties and even if some of those characters have made cameos in the comics, they are not really DC characters. Think of Jesus Christ. I am sure he has appeared in some capacity at some point in the comics, can we say he is a comic character? I don't think so. However there are exceptions (see Hades), who are established characters in the comics and in that case we should include them. I feel their addition makes the page a bit more crowded. They definitely deserve to be mentioned however so I was thinking that maybe we should create an entire new page for them. Legends of Tomorrow keeps bringing in these type of figures so I am sure there are enough of them to be included in the page. Also, I think the Characters adapted as objects, concepts or groups should be included in the Allusions to the DC Universe page.--TG90 (talk) 03:41, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

I just created a page have a look. I know it needs some more work. This is the page: Real-life figures and public domain characters

--TG90 (talk) 04:03, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

## Node count limit exceeded??

Is it possible for this to be fixed soon? If the problem is that there is too much content (?) on the page, maybe we should divide the page into multiple pages according to their show? (e.g. Allusions to the DC comics in Batwoman, Allusions to the DC comics in The Flash (The CW), which would also include characters? --LittleSquirrel21 (talk) 11:25, October 25, 2019 (UTC)

See the discussion here. $\int$ IHH dt    18:51, May 25, 2020 (UTC)
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