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Is there any confirmation that Black Arrow from The Ray is the same character as Earth-X Oliver? He had a different suit, mask, actor, and he seemed more like Overgirl's lackey, not The Fuhrer himself. If we're just assuming he is Oliver's counterpart, why not stay consistent and assume Blitzkrieg is Thawne as well? Kagemamoru (talk) 22:33, December 18, 2017 (UTC)

There is no way Blitzkreig could be Thawne. He has yellow lighting, while Thawne has red lighting. Also, many people think he is Earth-X Barry.Ninja72 (talk) 20:50, December 20, 2017 (UTC)

That's exactly what many people said about Zoom being "Jay" back in the day, except "Jay" had yellow lightning and Zoom had blue. They also theorized Zoom was Barry's counterpart even though Zoom had a different voice actor, just like Blitzkrieg. It's pure speculation. Also, Blitzkrieg wears the exact same emblem as Thawne, the red ring with black interior and double red lightning bolts in the SS symbol style. As for Earth-X Oliver, he seemed to be very close to Earth-X Tommy, who said he fought alongside of and would die for him. However, you don't see a Prometheus anywhere near Black Arrow. Kagemamoru (talk) 22:39, December 20, 2017 (UTC)


Yeah, but for Zoom, nobody was absolutely sure that he was Earth-2 Barry, while for Blitzkreig, they even added it on his page, and it got removed, because it is not confirmed in-universe. Also, blue lighting was explained in Trajectory, while red has not been. Plus, Freedom Fighters take place sometime during the previous seasons, and Thawne was fighting the Legends then Anyways, Blitzkreig being Earth-X Barry would make more sense and is far more likely than him being Thawne in my opinion..Ninja72 (talk) 15:01, December 21, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, nothing has been confirmed about Blitzkrieg or Black Arrow. That's my point. They didn't explain how Zolomon's "Jay" remnant turned his lightning from blue to yellow to fool the team. What does it ematter when Ray takes place if Thawne is the most notorious time traveler? We don't even know what time period the Thawne from Crisis is from. I don't see why they would change Barry's face and voice if that is his counterpart. Kagemamoru (talk) 14:53, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

Eye mask

An eye mask is used for sleeping, Oliver Queen from Earth-1 does not use an eye mask, he uses a mask and the user who put that on this page should know that Oliver wears a mask not an eye mask (sleeping mask) on Arrow. Do research on words and don't use wrong words.--Typhuss999 (talk) 15:48, December 22, 2017 (UTC)

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