For the sixth week of our improvement drive, we're finally focusing on another show, with The Flash season 1. Good luck editing!
For the sixth week of our improvement drive, we're finally focusing on another show, with The Flash season 1. Good luck editing!
On paper it's a decent idea but not the best route. Pages have table of contents after all for people to navigate throughout the page. not to mention it'll get subjective which characters will deserve subpage for seasonal biographies beyond main characters.
You're always open to leave suggestions though.
But one content has a lot of information so it can get annoying to navigate around that one page once you click on it. Regarding the subjective issue, it's not an issue. Only the main cast get a sub-page for that season. One thing about me is I hate subjectiveness and pride myself on objectiveness. If a subjective issue exists for something I suggested, chances are I already have a fix for that issue, I just failed to mention it, so I welcome anyone to call me out on potential subjectiveness to my suggestions, like you just did. :)
I agree with Cloudtheavenger. I hate going to any main characters' page because it is so long and takes a while to load. If I was just coming to the wiki, there would be so much and I would be overwhelmed. Whereas if each section had a summary and subpages to where I could read more if I wanted to, that would be better. Because most new comers are just looking for a quick summary any way. They don't want to sit there and read for hours just to find the one bit of information they wanted.
Adding onto what IHHeroes said, yesterday, I caught someone put "48h" rather than "48 hours" on Oliver's page when he and Anatoly were discussing how long it would take the fishing boat to get there. Who knows how long that edit was there and as long as pages stay long and messy, edits like that are more likely to go unnoticed. By dividing it into subpages, it is easier to find stuff like that.
At the very least, I say we do an experiment with one page: Oliver's. Then we make a poll with a discussion page, asking if this is preferable and more organized compared to before. If so, we keep going. If not, just delete the subpage and the changes made can be undone with a few clicks.
Another thing to try is to separate them into tabs like the Smallville wikia. Also, I think it would be a better idea to get rid of the subjective titles for each season subsection and just name it season one, two, three. If you want to get rid of subjectiveness, I think you should get rid of that.
What we have been doing to clean up this wikia clearly is not working, so we need to try a different approach. The worst that happens is nothing changes. The best that happens is this wikia gets more clean and organized. It does not hurt to at least try.
A quote from Felicity: "Crazy is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result."
Splitting a page into multiple subpages makes a page even messier and unclean. It means there are more places for people to both edit and, on the flipside, vandalise, so no, it's not really worth it. I understand people might want to read tidbits of information, but we're not here for little bits of trivial information, we're here to detail the Arrowverse entirely.
As for seasonal sections (eg. "Season 1", "Season 2" etc.), this is completely unrealistic. Plenty of things happen between seasons and before and after, not to mention we have policies that state in-universe should be used on in-universe pages. It works if done properly.
We already have a wikia that does this: the 24 wikia and they are very organized and neat with it. If they can do it, why can't we?
Also, you mentioned you want to mention the Arrowverse in its entirety, not pieces of information. I redid Oliver's season 1 section to make it more organized by making it a paragraph a section. Are you saying it would be better if I made it more concise into three to five paragraphs? That was not a sarcastic question, it was a real question.
I know we have an in-universe policy, but policies can be changed. Also, we can make a section that says "After Season one" or "Post Season One", so that is not really a strong argument. However, does MCU wikia does this beautifully, so I have no argument if we can clean up the wikia. Honestly, taking into account what I said in the above paragraph, I think the only thing this wikia needs is to be more concise. If you agree, I'm going to redo Oliver's season one activities again and ask for your take.
And a majority of wikis do it the same way we do, so why not keep it in a way that works?
And our policies stand, it's much more professional to have it in-universe and we've already spent a lot of time cleaning up articles written out of universe.
Just to be clear, I do see your points but that method just isn't the best option. Maybe something like ouat wiki,where they have biography sections hidden and shown only if people opt for a.section to be shown.
I'm not as impulsive as before, so I won't do imposing my views. But I want to use your points to clean the wikia up.
I redid Oliver's post flashback season 1 activities and tell me what's your take. That look better? I do not know how to handle photos, I will have to let someone else handle that. Let me know if you think is better. I kept out the filler episodes and focused on the plots that led to the Undertaking.
I see what you were trying to do, and it's definitely appreciated, but the filler episodes still exist. It's not for us to pick and choose as they still have significance to Oliver's character and his journey (or whichever character it may be).