- "To think this city worships you. But, when I kill The Flash, they'll realize I'm the man who saved Central City!"
- —The Trickster[src]
Greetings all! I am J Fan, also known as CJSFan. While I've been to many Wikis, I am mainly known at POTC Wiki.
I officially joined Wikia as "CJSFan" on April 4, 2010 and have had fun ever since! My main domain Wiki-wise is POTC Wiki(yea, I'm a huge Pirates nerd lol), while I briefly contribute to other Wikis, like add images, make any suggestions, etc. I've been a Wiki user since 2010, and have been making as many great contributions at Wiki ever since...particularly of course: POTC Wiki!
On March 2012, I decided to change my username to "J Fan" as I had a revelation of being both a POTC and Batman nerd...and loving the two big characters that start with "J"(Jack Sparrow for POTC, Joker for Batman lol). I have made a few contributions to DC-related wikis(DC Animated, Batman and here at Arrowverse Wiki), so I think that'll help me very much. And to answer this question "what are we going to call you now?": you can call me whichever of these names you like(J Fan is now my official Wiki name; but as I said LOTS of people know me as "CJSFan").
As far as Wiki-editing, I'm technically semi-retired, so I don't edit as much, and yet I still do. It's strange.
Regarding my history on watching the Arrow/Flash/Supergirl/Legends-verse, totally different story!
Unlike most, I have not watched many TV shows in the 2012-2013 season. But around Thanksgiving 2013, I was introduced to Arrow Season 1 and ended up binge-watching all 23 episodes (in one day!) thanks to my handy-dandy Netflix account. Sadly, I was not caught up on Season 2 (which was on at the time) so I was only able to catch up on a few episodes before the 2014 latter-half of the season. Don't ask me which episodes I've seen, as I can't remember clearly...it's a (pardon the pun) red blur! Thankfully, I was able to watch the rest of the season with ease, and said Arrow was my favorite show based on 2 great seasons. And thanks to two special Grant Gustin-guest star episodes, I knew they were making a series based on the Flash, as well as a brilliantly sneak peek called "Don't Blink", I was instantly hooked on this soon-to-be shared universe.
When I first followed The Flash series, I thought, "There is no way I'm going to like this better than Arrow. No way!" At the time, not being a comic-fanatic, I knew Flash only as a guy who runs fast. But then I started watching it and thought Flash is pretty good but Arrow is going to be way better. Long story short, Arrow Season 3 was not my perfect cup of tea and ended up a disappointment, and despite all odds The Flash did things I never thought possible and became hands-down my favorite Arrowverse show. Maybe even one of the best shows ever, certainly it's my favorite superhero show currently on air. It had everything I wanted to watch. Good stories and great humor combined with comic-booky awesomeness...or perhaps it has something to do with the Star Wars icon himself Mark Hamill reprising his role as the Trickster.
That day forward, I'm proud to become a fan. Watched the new seasons of Arrow S4 (wasn't perfect, better than S3) and Flash S2 (good, but still love S1), and watched Legends of Tomorrow as it starred a motley crew of the DC Arrowverse. Sadly, I didn't watch Supergirl until much later (last minute until Season 2) simply because it was constantly denied that the show was part of the Arrowverse...this last year says different with the "Heroes v Aliens" crossover with Dominators. I'm glad to say I'm watching these four shows, mostly because they in part helped me become an avid comics fan that I'm happy to say I now am. And being a fan of this universe, I certainly hope I get to watch these characters for as long as (meta-)humanly possible.
In the beginning, there was only one. A single black infinitude... It hasn't been 8 years into the Arrowverse and they decide to do Crisis on Infinite Earths? Wow. Just "Wow." As of my writing this, Crisis has ended (with repercussions still to be revealed) and two weeks have passed since Arrow aired their series finale episode on my TV screen. Well, where to begin? I'm both happy and sad with how it all came out, but it is what it is. Sad of course because Arrow is over after 8 seasons, but happy that it ended big, as instead of one special episode, it was a whole season (including Crisis) that served as both an end and a new beginning. Having said that, I do have some thoughts, no offense to the Arrow team. But then what final season doesn't, so I'll just leave it at that.
Regarding the Crisis on Infinite Earths itself, what can I say that hadn't been said someplace else? Some love it, some were disappointed, and some might even hate it. Personally, I'm pretty sure it's not the worst crossover, certainly the most ambitious bar none—I mean, if you've seen how much they got away with, and what they could've done had the stars align or if they had more money to pay for the goodness. Was I disappointed by certain things? Absolutely! Kevin Conroy finally appears as Bruce Wayne physically onscreen after 27 years of just voicing Batman, then turns out to be known "Evil Batman" and dies!...Spoiler alert. Not to mention there was no appearance by Mark Hamill in any way, even after all the speculation after Conroy was announced. But unlike other DC properties I had expectations of (*coughs* Batman v Superman) I knew what I was getting into and the plot twists mostly worked with the story the Arrowverse told. That said, I hope the Arrowverse makes the right decisions in the future, should either Conroy or Hamill be able to make it on set. Whew! And that was just one cameo over years of 1960s and 1989 Batman, Supermen played by Brandon Routh and Smallville star Tom Welling...oh yeah and Ezra Miller bringing the DCEU into the fold! Not gonna lie, I had speculated since 2015(?) Before Batman v Superman left me with dread for the DCEU and my hopes were dashed. Boy, how quickly did I forget? Like with a certain Flash character, I underestimated the Arrowverse team once again. Although I did see Earth-90 Flash's nostalgic role (dare I say a homage?) coming a mile away. But the Shadow demons though, and Lucifer Morningstar. Did I mention the score, musical easter eggs aside...although I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy hearing Danny Elfman's Batman or John Williams' Superman, which are arguably more iconic than Hans Zimmer's themes (and I love Zimmer's work!). And ending things with Super Friends was a pleasant surprise (I literally yelled "Gleek?!"), risky but brilliant in my book. Bottom line, blabbering aside, I did love it. But is is the best crossover? Hmmm...I don't know because Crisis on Earth-X was pretty good and a little more linear. Unless something happens in the near future or if I simply missed something, more than likely it'll remain a tie. Boy, this review is more hard to follow than the Crisis itself!
In the end, there was only one. A single black infinitude...So what happens now? Well, with the Arrowverse having "an end" with their new beginning, I'm contemplating my future as a viewer. Of course a part of me obviously wants to keep watching, but here's my issue: Arrow and Flash started it all, and they did it while honoring the comics that they're based on. I enjoyed Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow at first, but they haven't been the same since both shows each had their season 2 (separately) on the air. Either the stories play out ridiculous, or they are political...which is normal, but you can only bash on Donald Trump or bring up "anti-gun" stories so many times to a point where it's annoying. I'm not taking sides as far as political parties, I'm a guy (excuse me, "person") who's mostly neutral, but these shows are clearly not. I want to continue enjoy these shows but because of their agendas, I'm almost to the point where I'm considering cutting those 2 shows off my watchlist. 5+ seasons later, Arrow and Flash have been neutral and fully satisfied my needs to get away from the real world. Not really bringing up Batwoman as she's on her first season, but right now I'm liking it more than the other shows. I know, I'm one viewer out of millions, give or take. Just had to say how I feel, out of nostalgia. And if I'm the only one thinking it, then so be it. All that said, I'm giving the new Arrowverse until next season to change my mind, hoping all shows get on the same page and focus solely about the DC universe we know and love.
Favorite Arrowverse bits
Like most, I could name my favorite characters that appear variously in the whole Arrowverse. However, it's tricky because for me, there...are...so...many! But if I were to pick a few, I'll list them somewhere below.
Big Bads/Villain of the Week
Various Multiverse characters
Old Multiverse locations
My favorite episodes
Might as well ask me what are my LEAST favorites. So I'll just list seasons as a whole.
- Season 2
- Season 8
- Season 5
- Season 1
- Season 6
- Season 7
- Season 4 (liked Damien Darhk and Green Arrow suit)
- Season 3 (liked Ra's al Ghul, disliked "Al Sah-him" story)
- Season 1
- Season 3
- Season 2
- Season 4 (liked DeVoe, loved Zoey Clark)
- Season 5 (hated Cicada and Flash suit, liked Nora and Eobard Thawne)
- Season 2
- Season 1
- Season 3 (episodes with M'yrnn J'onzz I like the most)
- Season 4 (episodes with Lex Luthor I like the most)
DC's Legends of Tomorrow
Other Arrowverse affiliations
Note: I have seen some not all of these, but judging from what I know of these DC properties, which I may or may not catch up on someday.
- * next to ones I haven't watched outside of a few clips
- ** for ones I have seen the least.
- Batman (1989 film)
- Superman (1978 film)
- The Flash (1990 series) *
- Batman (1966 series) *
- Titans **
- Birds of Prey (2002 series) **
- "Villains or vigilantes? Criminals or heroes? From Star City to Central City to Gotham City, Americans have debated this question. Do the ends justify the means? Does the law have to be broken to uphold it?"
- "You and I are not dissimilar. We're both haunted by our pasts, and the only way to bury that ghost is by forgiving yourself."
- —Slade Wilson to Oliver Queen[src]
- "I've had 20 years to come up with the perfect trick. It's going to be my masterpiece. My Mona Lisa. My Breaking Bad season five. They gave me cable in prison so I'd stop killing the guards."
- —James Jesse/The Trickster[src]
- "Strange visitor from another planet comes to Earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men? Clark. Clark always said yes to anyone with a badge. Or a flag. He gave them too much power. My parents taught me a very different lesson. Life only makes sense if you force it to. A little little souvenir from the old hometown."
- —Bruce Wayne (Earth-99)[src]
- "Dying's the easy part. The dead are at peace, but the real heroes are the ones who have to keep going."
- —Oliver Queen to Barry Allen[src]
...and pretty much 90% of everything else. Seriously, all the shows have mostly great dialogue.