Hi, welcome to Arrowverse Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Man in yellow page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! TimeShade (talk) 07:00, December 10, 2014 (UTC)


Hey, I've just dropped by to let you know that we have an image policy, which details that we prefer both good-quality images and PNG filetypes, for specific reasons. Adding to that, the image you added was no where near better, so I'm confused as to why you'd added it, especially on such a big page. Just remember to follow all of our policies in future, they're not too picky. —MakeShift (talk page) 12:19, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Creating individual pages for super abilities

Really most of the abilities there don't really need a page. Most abilities only have 1 person who has that power, not to mention the lack of history with most powers(within the show). Having a page is quite redundant. The only power that really needs it is such as super-speed but it's nice to be consistent within the wiki so probably best to keep it all in 1 page.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:16, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Like I said before, really not so sure because there is lack of history, and if anything it'll probs be filled with basically just a bio of a character who has the power. If you want, you can go and ask the other admins.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 20:45, March 12, 2015 (UTC)
Yea, if we do individual pages at all, it'll only be stuff like super-speed and maybe some recurring powers like Atmokinesis after Mark appears as weather wizard or Super strength.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 21:37, March 12, 2015 (UTC)


Because the ability wasn't actually used, really no need to put it. Better to use stuff that was actually shown.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 03:57, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Considering you're actually inferring that, it wouldn't be at all accurate to put it. As I viewed it the first time, I thought maybe he was leaning forward to watch, as one does in, say, a movie. Only was it later that I figured maybe it was to do with his super speed. You're completely taking information from nowhere, so it's almost incorrect. —MakeShift (talk page) 06:05, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, first, don't be so rude. That's not cool to any person. It definitely seemed that way, of course, but have we got any sort of confirmation? No. None whatsoever. In future consider that we cover factual, confirmed content, rather than assumptions, and maybe also consider to not be so arrogant and rude. —MakeShift (talk page) 06:40, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Dude, MakeShift and TimeShade have both said what they're going to say. There's no point in arguing, you need to calm down. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 06:59, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

I think you seem to miss the fact. It didn't happen, it wasn't even mentioned or confirmed. That's like saying "oh well Wells would obviously be going to save Barry when he fought Farooq, but the writers didn't need to spell it out". —MakeShift (talk page) 07:22, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
Okay, so the two other admins, and one of our main editors have all said what I'm going to say, if it DIDN'T happen, then there's no need mentioning it, sure he looked as if he was prepared to, however, because he didn't, there's no proof that it was going to happen. Now, apologise to both MakeShift and TimeShade for being an obnoxious prick, and calling MakeShift a dick. As what you said, you had no right to say. Also the way you wrote what you wanted to add to the page, was quite illiterate. Wraiyf You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back. 07:54, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
I'd also like to add...consider yourself lucky for not being blocked. You straight out violated wikias ToU in the post you called MakeShift a dick. We didnt even treat you badly. We just gave our explanation, not like we straight out said no.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 20:03, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

RE:The RF's red eyes

Not so sure, maybe it's just an extra thing he does to further protect his identity?TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:06, February 10, 2015 (UTC)


Ontop what I said in the undo, we also expect users to License and categorize each photo. For licensing, when you upload, you would most likely use fairuse or one of the screenshot licensing's. If you are using a screenshot, after uploading go to the photo's page and edit the licensing and add the source of the photo. E.g. {{Image-screenshot|The Climb}} and add the categories Images of (Character name).TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C|

User images, name them as such how I did for you. We usually want pngs only, but we've been discussing on letting jpgs on user pages.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 03:32, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
I didn't delete your photo's, I just renamed them. You really need to calm down.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 03:41, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
No matter what, you need to follow policies no matter how ridiculous. I've seen wikis with a lot of ridiculous policies, yet I always conform to them. Also, we have the png policy, because png's gives the full quality of a photo. Also, before you say our image policies are ridiculous, tell me, the naming for example. If someone names it qrofhwgeofh1.png, how will that help with SEO? How will that make it easy for users to find photos?TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 03:55, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
ImperiexSeed, you're seriously being beyond rude. I'd never perceived our policies as that ridiculous (to be fair, I did write a good lot of them), but if you ever had a problem with them then the smart thing to do is to talk to an admin. The majority of your edits have been userpage edits, so I hardly think you'd care about images on our wiki. If you upload a bad quality image, we delete it unless we can immediately replaceable. If it's named terribly, WE RENAME IT. There is nothing simpler than that, and that is simply best practice on any wiki you'll ever visit. —MakeShift (talk page) 07:43, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Image sizing

If you could, can you please reupload the images you uploaded so they're all 1280x720p for current seasons (1920px1080p for when bluray comes out. Any 1080p file of current seasons now is just 720p stretched)? Also without that black line. We also prefer images licensed, screen caps using {{image-screenshot}} for Arrow or {{image-screenshotF}} for the Flash and add the source of the episode so it would look like {{image-screenshotF|The Man in the Yellow Suit}}. Also categorize them appropiately, such as Images of Barry Allen or whoever is in the pic, just so pictures can be organized.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 04:05, March 19, 2015 (UTC)

please, you need to learn to license and categorize your photos. Categorizing especially, it helps organize photos.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 22:40, March 20, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Creating individual pages for super abilities

Contrary to popular belief, waiting a few days to reply does not constitute as "ignoring" someone. I've been busy, so I saw your message but forgot to reply. I can understand where you're coming from in relation to actual pages, but I'd say no. Unless we learn more about super speed and whatnot (that is, say, its connection to the Speed Force), then it doesn't really need a page. That's completely your opinion that it's "sillily frivolous", because it works absolutely fine as is, I'm utterly confused why it wouldn't work well. —MakeShift (talk page) 00:27, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

Checking out Supergirl?

Hey ImperiexSeed, I was just wondering whether or not you were checking out CBS' upcoming Supergirl series, and were planning to edit on the wiki. If so, I'd just like to save us both some time and let you know what is, and won't be on there as the founder.

  • We will be doing full powers/ability pages, as there will be multiple and therefore need singular articles. Though despite that, this wiki only has Super Speed right now, and does have an article for the Speed force so it'd be ridiculous to do so here as of right now. Just adding my little piece in that conversation between you and the admins.
  • We won't however be doing huge "In the Comics sections", nor categories for which powers Kara uses in certain episodes. I have already set up an "Allusions to the DC Universe" similar to the "Allusions to the Superman Universe" on Supergirl Wiki, but for everything. No "Other faces of "whichever DC character it is" galleries aren't allowed either.
  • All image files are allowed, but have to be high quality. Though images in any infobox must be png, as those give the best quality
  • Also, all articles must be written in-universe perspective.

That's just about it. I look forward in working with you, but I just wanted to set some rules so we aren't butting heads :) Smallville Wiki is terrific, but just clarifying that Supergirl Wiki has some different rules implemented. Hope to see you there man! Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 07:44, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

RE:RF image

You're free to go on the file page and replace it yourself! Just make sure it's the exact size so 1280x720. If you have the iTunes copy, you'll need to resize it as the itunes copy is just a stretched version of the 720p version. Oh yea, and don't forget to edit the licensing so it says it's from the new ep.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:51, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

No need, the way we do it here is for infobox images, we just replace the current file then fix up the licensing to the proper episode source. The files shouldn't be protected. I also noticed you upload 1920x1080 files. Since it's still airing, we just use 1280x720, the itunes files are just stretched versions of 1280x720.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:12, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
From time to time, stuff like this happens where it takes some time for an image to be replaced properly. Also, like i said, you need to resize it so screen caps for current seasons are 1280x720 and only add 1080p once the bluray is released. Also you need to update the licensing, here is the link to edit the file if you are unsure how.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 03:53, March 31, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Defeating or killing the Reverse Flash

Not sure how they'll do it on the show but RF defs isn't getting killed in season 1, just defeated if anything. Really, if you want a discussion, don't have to just ask me, you're free to create a forum and start a discussion!TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 22:56, March 26, 2015 (UTC)


It was phenomenal! I'm so happy that my theory was correct, that Eobard did steal Wells' identity!TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:55, April 1, 2015 (UTC)


It is unlocked. It's just protected from anons.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 02:24, April 2, 2015 (UTC)

Eobard Thawne Image.

The Image that we're currently using for Eobard Thawne is fine, there's not need to change it. Wraiyf You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back. 03:02, April 2, 2015 (UTC)

We only ever change the images with the next season, we keep the same image for the entirety of the season, and the image wasn't actually that good, as well as against the Wiki Policy, for currently airing seasons, images are to be 720p not smaller, no bigger, you can't just change an image because your's "was a great pic." because quite honestly it wasn't. You're not being rude, however you're being a sour sob because you didn't get your way. Wraiyf You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back. 03:12, April 2, 2015 (UTC)


We don't want to keep saying this. You need to License and categorize your photos. Also ALL screen captures of current seasons must be 1280x720. The current 1080p ones are just stretched 720p versions.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 03:01, April 9, 2015 (UTC)

RE:How fast do you think Eobard is?

Like I've said before, you could always start a discussion with the forums.

Also, for images, we prefer no black bars. Yes, we may be strict with images and all but it's for our viewers. As for majority of wikis, more than 90% of the visitors are just readers, so we want them to have a good viewing experience. Also, for organization of photos, edit the files page so it would look like {{Image-screenshotF|The Man in the Yellow Suit}}.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 22:57, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

Forums and blogs are different but i tell you this so you can perhaps get a discussion going. We apologize if we made you think that we hate you. If i dont have an answer at the moment i'd tell you to start a discussion and i may join in later.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 23:43, April 11, 2015 (UTC)


Apologies if it made it look like I was talking to you. Was directed to whoever initially put that content.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 21:37, April 18, 2015 (UTC)


I'm actually not sure what's the problem, though it shouldn't be a big deal as that image shown at the end of last episode is almost the same as the current, just in a different angle and darkened.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 00:01, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Just replace the file, it's just every once in a while, caching is slow on wikia so it takes a while for the change to actually happen but most of the time it happens instantly.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 00:38, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Updating images

Don't update images purely for the sake of updating it, as you did with the Reverse-Flash image. Not only was the original one fine, the one you updated it with was absolutely terrible quality and even had a watermark on it! We're not going to give you any more warnings, this is your final one. —MakeShift (talk page) 04:45, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Considering I'm looking at it now and it has a wordmark on it, I'd say it begs to differ. If you reckon I'm mean, that's your own opinion, though it seems to be that we're consistently cleaning up after you (of course, that's not to say you're the only one we clean up after, but you're definitely one of). Perhaps I jumped the gun, but it still keeps happening. In terms of images, you shouldn't be updating them if they're both bad quality (which was the show, admittedly), have a wordmark in the new one and aren't even 720p, when we can get 720p from released episodes. Also, don't go posting messages on my archive, send them directly to my current talk page, as they're archives for a reason. —MakeShift (talk page) 14:09, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
Don't worry, it's all fine, I just haven't been in a great mood. The watermark is that "CW" symbol. It's just a generic sort of term, give it a Google if you're confused. —MakeShift (talk page) 01:32, April 20, 2015 (UTC)
Although Imperiex you do tend to update images for no apparent reason, and it's pretty easy to get images without wordmarks. Wraiyf You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back. 01:48, April 20, 2015 (UTC)
On top of what Wraiyf said, in reply to your questions, not necessarily. A watermark is something that a TV channel or otherwise puts over the top of an airing program, I guess as just kind of a way to signify that it's airing on their channel. You might've seen images previously with "CTV" watermarks in their lower corner, that's another sort. Generally just follow the image policy and you should be alright! —MakeShift (talk page) 02:30, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

On top of licensing, you also need to add the source of the image so it's such as {{Image-screenshotF|Episode name}}TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:35, April 21, 2015 (UTC)


Hey ImperiexSeed, users usually aren't supposed to make categories without asking the admins first. Especially not rather redundant ones such as "Flashes". As such, I undid both of your edits on the Barry Allen & Eobard Thawne articles, and put the delete template in the category you made. If we ever did do a "Flashes" type category, it'd most likely be something like "Speed Force users", or something like that. But for right now, the Speed Force aspect hasn't even been explained, so to assume Barry draws his powers from there would be incorrect for now. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 22:20, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

On top of what Nep said, before adding something deleted by admins, always ask an admin why it was deleted before going ahead and doing so again. Nep pretty much said it well, until we get more info speed force and more speedsters, we don't really need it now.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 22:32, April 21, 2015 (UTC)
And on top of that, don't add a made up term "Flashes" the official term is Speedsters, and that also means that you spammed an incorrect term onto articles. due to your recent endeavors that have damaged the wikia, I'm deciding to block you for the term of 2 weeks. Wraiyf You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back. 23:59, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Picture requirements on this wiki

For image sizing, you can either use paint or [ pixlr]. As images, character infobox image just needs 1 or 2 updates a season really. If you want to upload an image to place on an article, it just needs to be a key part of the bio. Episode infobox images should be related to the main plot or a key part.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 19:41, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Will Grant Gustin as Barry/The Flash play in season two?

I'm pretty sure he will. Hopefully we'll see another Flash being introduced though! even if it's just the character who has yet to gain powers such as Wally West.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 06:59, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

RE:How was the Reverse Flash taken down so easily?

It was fine the way it was, like I said, RF might not have tried at all as part of his plan.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 08:20, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Three places at the same time

I think Eobard just meant he probably could've fought Oliver and Firestorm quickly and then dealt with Barry, but then it looks like his plan was to be caught, he likely could've ran off after he fell, despite falling a great height, not to mention he could've killed Oliver quickly after he told Oliver how old he lived to be but hesitated.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 18:34, May 18, 2015 (UTC)


I don't know, gotta ask the EP's why they didn't demonstrate that.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 15:41, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Stagg's security

I don't believe so.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:41, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

RE:The term "Flash"

Yes, I know of that scene but he probably said it that way because saying "Or I don't know, another The Flash running beside me" doesn't sound proper.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 02:08, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

Regardless, the term "speedster" was used more throughout the series.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 02:42, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Just having the Arrow defeat the Reverse Flash

Because the Arrow can't take down the RF by himself.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 17:17, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

Because when he killed Barry's mom, he changed it so Barry never became The Flash, so that means he never became the Reverse Flash. So he had to create the Flash himself and he needed to train Barry to be fast enough. He won't get his original speed automatically the moment Barry got the powers.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 21:06, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

It's quite redundant, don't need a page for a hologram, that content can be put on Eobard's page, as it's just a recording of him. As for Oliver, he needed Barry to get out of the way so he can try to hit him without risking hitting Barry.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 04:45, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Hi, you seem cool. I'm new here. :), I love The Flash with a passion. What are your expectations for the second season?

RE: Quick question

From how it appears, up until a certain point it was a hologram, then once the "program" ended, Wells began to be both the Reverse-Flash and Wells at the same time, so generally just less work. —MakeShift (talk page) 09:53, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

I'm in IRC on this wiki. Also Supergirl is great, very similar to the Flash. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 06:53, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Flashes' eye colors

Idk, maybe RF just does it the way he does so he can look more intimidating.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 18:12, June 8, 2015 (UTC)


It's all about personal opinion. As for "better quality", it isn't. You can see far more detail in the one MakeShift uploaded. Also, yours wasn't a proper size, it has to be 1280x720p. You also need to source all images when you update, something you're not doing. When you're on the files page, click edit and you should see what I mean.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 22:08, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Creation of relationship pages

We use to do relationship but we decided to take them out. I can see why it could be useful but especially the romantic relationships pages, it gets filled with a lot of personal opinions by shippers.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 23:33, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Since admins don't individually make decisions, leave your proposal on the other admins talk pages.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 23:56, June 12, 2015 (UTC)


I'd appreciate it if you didn't make spam edits, like one you made on the Eobard Thawne page, removing way too much content. Try referring to this policy. On a sidenote, stop repeatedly messaging users complaining about the fight in "Rogue Air". We get it, you didn't like it. So what? It happened, and it's not like they're changing it, so stop. In summary, if you make more spam edits, you may get blocked. —MakeShift (talk page) 05:37, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

I repeat, QUIT COMPLAINING about the Reverse-Flash, it's getting incredibly annoying. —MakeShift (talk page) 06:20, June 15, 2015 (UTC)


I'm out now so i'll fix it when i get home or you can right now.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 19:51, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

RE:‎Killing Blackout

Probably they just made it like that so it wouldn't be obvious who he was until the msf, even though most fans already knew he was Eobard.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 22:20, June 14, 2015 (UTC)


If you could please source screenshots from episodes, that'd be great; that'd include File:The Reverse-Flash killing two guards.png, as it hasn't been. —MakeShift (talk page) 05:59, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Just in the licensing template (with that image it'd be "Image-screenshot") just use a pipe ("|") and then add the episode title after it, for example: {{Image-screenshot|Fast Enough}}MakeShift (talk page) 09:39, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Hunter Zolomon, the Top and Inertia

I think maybe for this universe, Hunter Zolomon will be Joe's new partner, in the main timeline that is.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:33, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Some questions

I don't think it'll be either. Vandal Savage is the main antagonist of LoT, so most defs not him, though I expect him to be introduced in a crossover with Arrow where he kills Damien Darhk (who will be resurrected). Like I've said, maybe in this universe Hunter Zolomon will be Joe's new partner and can be the main antagonist. For my expectations, I think it'll be great but I'm not sure if it can compare to season 1 but I may be wrong!TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 02:37, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

Just my personal theory but since Grant said he'll be introduced right away, could make sense as Joe will need a new partner.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 02:52, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

I wasn't serious. It's an inside joke between the two of us, that we made up. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 04:48, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

Dude, we weren't making fun of you... we started that joke when we learned the Wells had been powered by that device in his wheelchair all along. Nothing against you man. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 04:56, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

Patty Spivot

A while ago they gave a character description for a character named Wendy which matches that of Patty Spivot. See here for the original article.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 21:36, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

RE:The Flash's season 2's trailer

Yup, they'll probably post it quickly though because they know someone attending will leak it. I wonder how much they'll add to the trailer though, considering filming begins July 7. I assume it'll mostly be a sizzle of season 1 then end it with a couple of teases.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 00:50, July 3, 2015 (UTC)

Generally for SDCC trailers, they do a recap for about a minute-minute and a half then end it with a few teases for the season.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 08:53, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it'll be shorter than usual probably as filming only begins today so they can only get so much by the weekend.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 09:14, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
They might if they are asked that.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 21:03, July 9, 2015 (UTC)
Because the panel hasn't happened yet, it starts 8pm PST.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:03, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
See here.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 04:43, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
They only filmed so many scenes and they probably didn't want to give too much away about the aftermath of the singularity just yet.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 04:54, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
They didn't reveal the title. Also I wasn't at comic con but I did follow the news online all weekend.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 05:39, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Can I become an admin?

Something like this takes lots of consideration like you said so yourself. MakeShift, Wraiyf, and I are carefully monitoring every users edits as we are looking to add a new admin by the time LoT airs.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 21:39, July 5, 2015 (UTC)


The nanites were probably slightly more effective. Also, when Oliver shot Eobard both times, he wasn't focusing on Oliver, unlike Barry when they fought.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 19:01, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Quit edit warring

ImperiexSeed, the current Martin Stein image is higher quality, and a better image overall. Myself, TimeShade, and the few others who are sitting in chat have all agreed, so quit changing it back please. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 07:32, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

Yes you're allowed to add images to the wiki, BUT, you mainly just replace images, when it's uneeded. That's not helpful, when the images don't need to be replaced as of right now. If you were adding images for stuff that we don't already have, I doubt anyone would say anything to you. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 07:47, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
The fact is that for the most part you change images purely because you can. The Martin Stein image, for example, didn't need to be changed. He looked exactly like that in his latest appearance and it was a clear shot. Uploading images of new things is absolutely encouraged, as is updating ones with better light (ie. you couldn't see them in the original image) or much closer (if they were far away); you haven't done this, you've just uploaded willy nilly. —MakeShift (talk page) 07:51, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
Hmmm hey dude =D it's nothing personal, but just stating the obvious:
00:22, July 8, 2015	1,280 × 718 (846 KB)	ImperiexSeed (Talk | contribs)
Closer look: 1,280 × 718, so the "I size them to 1,280 × 720" isn't technically correct, and if you had the correct file to begin with, you actually don't need to size them at all. Good luck! --Sammm✦✧(talk) 07:54, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
Wow, hey there! Sorry I didn't put replying to you the utmost first priority in my life, plus it was late at night = (12 ~ 3 AM in my time zone? not sure); I was hanging out and chatting with the admins in IRC, and went to bed when I'm absolutely beat, please don't get your knickers in a twist for the late respond; I just figured you seemed very sure of yourself with the way you replied and saw little point of continuing this conversation; sorry that apparently that offended you. And yes, I am very aware that the image policy here is 1,280 × 720 for current-airing season; however, if you look at the "File history" of Martin Stein.png; you will see the image you wanted to use, is like I stated, 1,280 × 718, therefore, not the exact dimension. I was simply pointing out the fact that your sentence about meeting the policy does not apply to that image, because it indeed DID NOT meet the policy. I don't get enjoyment for seeing someone feeling hurt and offended and complaining to me on my wall/talk page as the first thing I see when I wake up in the morning (or any time of the day for the matter); people make mistake and that's just the way it is since nobody's absolutely 100% perfect. I've made mistakes regarding to images when I first started uploading here as well, but after the admins kindly explained to me how to achieve the correct dimension without breaking a sweat, it was then fine. If you want to keep this convo going, then sure, let's talk; what program are you using for your screenshots? If the video copy of the episode you had is of the correct dimension (aka 1,280 × 720 for current airing season), and if you use VLC (free and all); go to "Video" and click "Snapshot" whenever you see a nice scene, and viola! That's literally it, you can upload them directly (and rename them properly during upload) without ever needing another software to resize/size the image. If you already know this, then well, we (I said we cuz pretty much all of the people in the chat at the time were confused) don't know why your images sometimes seem like they've been modified when they shouldn't have been; which is also why I said good luck the last time because if that's the case, no one can really help you other than yourself. People can only tell you you are wrong when you aren't seeing it yourself. --Sammm✦✧(talk) 16:49, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

RE:You stop it

Guess what ImperiexSeed? The picture you uploaded is sucky quality, and is at a terrible angle. The previous one, though it had a bit of Mason's shoulder in it, is high quality, and shows her full face. We'll stop reverting the images you upload when you start doing something productive, no one has the time spitefully do anything, just because you're the one who uploaded them. You think you're annoyed, imagine how we feel. Write some missing bios, create missing pages, upload images that are needed, and actually need to be replaced, and then we won't have these problems. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 01:50, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Adding to Nep, if we were "childish" and reverted photos just because it was you who uploaded it, we likely would've reverted your edits also. We aren't childish. Like nep said, upload good quality photos and better than current ones, then they won't be reverted.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 02:25, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

User page

If you wish to update your userpage frequently, I suggest looking to creating a userpage template on Community central then uploading it here. If you do so and unsure how, this is how you would do it:

  • Go to Community Central and make a template like Template:User:ImperiexSeed.
  • Add whatever you want for that userpage template.
  • On your userpage on any wiki, do {{w:User:ImperiexSeed}}.

You could also do different userpage templates for different wikis.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 20:59, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, there is nothing wrong with editing your userpage, it just gets problematic when Recent Wiki Activity gets spammed with userpage edits.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 21:17, July 20, 2015 (UTC)
Oh, don't remind me of that, staff most defs should've done a forum so the feed wouldn't have been spammed. Also yea, you can see on my userpage I did a crosswiki user template which i use on all wikis I edit on. You don't have to make 1 specific one though, you can make a few different ones as on CC they aren't so picky.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 21:30, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Dude, it hasn't been confirmed that the Eobard Thawne Tom is playing is from Earth 2. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 22:22, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Firstly, we don't add things like that without reference, and you basically contradicted yourself in your own sentence. Eobard will be from the multiverse, hence the word "multi", meaning he could be from any of the multiple earths within the multiverse. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 22:29, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

You don't get to predict things as if they're facts here, don't add it again unless you have a trusted source. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 22:34, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

No one is ignoring you, I just didn't see it right away. At the time, I think Raya was stated to be a tad bit faster than Clark. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 01:28, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Because, Clark weighs as much a regular person? Just because someone has super strength, or invulnerability doesn't make them weigh a ton, lol. I told you this before, but you should really check out Reddit. It's made for discussions, and that seems what you like to do. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 02:45, July 21, 2015 (UTC)


Because they just needed to film a couple scenes for upfronts. They'll likely reshoot the scenes with Barry and Oliver so they're in the new costumes.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 19:05, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Season 2 episode 2 title

That's because Marc Guggenheim decides to share the script covers, The Flash writers don't.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 00:05, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

really the times we get title for The Flash episodes are quite random. Sometimes SpoilerTV gets a source for it, sometimes it's with an episode preview, sometimes its with some casting (like the recent casting of Michael Ironside also gave us the title of episode 3.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 00:31, July 24, 2015 (UTC)


I do not know if they'll do it but I don't think so. For your second question, that probably was his peak, just my guess though.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 04:54, July 25, 2015 (UTC)


Those are fanmade.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 22:56, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, they're by a dude named BossLogic, he's really good! I'm sure you'd have seen his stuff in the past. —MakeShift (talk page) 13:40, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Pied Piper

Then link to the source he said it, don't link to a wishlist.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 06:43, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Season 2 trailer

Probably when we get S4 of Arrows which will come soon enough. Not sure for other episode titles as I said, it's unpredictable when The Flash episode titles are revealed, we will get it at the latest when they reveal the synopsis which is around 2 weeks before the episode airs.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 00:01, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know, never really thought about it.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 06:06, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

Just gotta wait. The trailer for Arrow season 4 is being released soon so they should both drop around the same time.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:28, September 2, 2015 (UTC)
I'm assuming that's gonna be the longest one before the season premieres.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:44, September 11, 2015 (UTC)


I'm iffy on that, despite having some significance, not significant enough to have it's own page.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 04:35, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Will Earth-2 Eddie appear, and will he be Zoom?

Kreisberg said Rick won't be back as a regular, so who knows? Cast and crew twist their words enough so they can't be accused of lying. Rick could return as Zoom and be the main antagonist as in many cases, the main antagonists aren't part of the main cast.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:20, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

No, lol. ImperiexSeed, I speak for everyone when I say this. Quit constantly asking us questions. No offense, but we're all sick of it, you asking questions about literally everything, and complaining about stuff you don't like. It's beyond irritating. Stop it, and when I say stop it, that means just in general. MakeShift told you this before, and what you did was stop asking questions for a little, and then started back up. If you constantly want to ask things, look up what Reddit is, but please quit constantly asking us questions about pieces of fiction. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 07:05, July 31, 2015 (UTC)

You're allowed an opinion, and you're allowed to be curious, but you take it to a level that's just plain annoying. "But why?" doesn't have to be your answer for everything, just because you don't think it's right. —MakeShift (talk page) 07:09, July 31, 2015 (UTC)

Recently uploaded images

You plan on using File:User-ImperiexSeed-15.png on your profile and File:The_Reverse_Flash_snatching_Mason.png on an article? If not I will remove them.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 07:14, August 9, 2015 (UTC)


I believe at TCA they released a CW reel in general, which hopefully gets uploaded soon enough. They showed a first glimpse of Jay Garrick as well.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 00:05, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Yea, the TCA just happened. Not sure why it isn't up yet but I did see tweets people talking about a CW reel.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 00:18, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
That's the one sadly.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 02:41, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
I don't really know but I hope it is soon.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 02:45, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
Maybe, they might put it in the middle of a Vixen episode to help promote the webseries.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 23:31, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

RE: New picture

I literally just got home. You need to get that just because things haven't been added doesn't mean they won't be. We're not stupid, we see when most things are released, so use common sense. —MakeShift (talk page) 06:30, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Talk page usage

Hey! No worries! I think it's understandable when there's no straightforward guidance about what the Talk pages are for. People sometimes expect it's common sense or something. I also think honestly that's kinda Wikia's problem for not making it exactly obvious: Help:Talk pages. Perhaps bolding stuff like "they exist for communicating with other users and discussing how to improve a wikia" or "Article talk pages are often a place to resolve disagreements about an article" would help. =P

But yeah, and since the Comment function (WikiFeatures) is meant to be an option to replace Talk pages, that's why some other wikis'd have the same problem and users just comment about the subject and not about the actual article, which, I've seen certain wikis add stuff like below to their comment area (example from OUaTW):

"Comments are for discussion relating to article editing and nomination discussion ONLY. Please post all theories and thoughts in the forums. Any comments not relating to improving the article will be immediately deleted."
That's when I realized that's sort of how it is here (most of the time). But yeah. Obviously, not all wikis are like this so it can be confusing sometimes. I think someone actually asked an admin to create a Talk page policy (although for different reasons?) If you feel that having the function of talk page being stated would help, perhaps you can back up the suggestion bahaha. =D Good day to you! --Sammm✦✧(talk) 23:13, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

Updating images

I'm getting sick of it now, you're seriously updating images purely for the sake of updating them. If there is absolutely nothing wrong with an image, do not update it. If your image is substantially better than the previous one, then by all means, otherwise DO NOT. —MakeShift (talk page) 08:15, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

Considering Neptune reverted one earlier, I'd say the evidence begs to differ. The fact is you've done it way too many times before and then acted sourly because you haven't gotten your way, claiming that we're horrible and acting against you purely because we can. And that's not to mention the constant complaining about "why didn't so-and-so beat so-and-so?"; because it's intended for entertainment, not for realism. Deal with it and quit complaining so much. —MakeShift (talk page) 08:43, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
You seem to ignore the fact that it still happened. I also reverted your update of Mari McCabe's image the other day; it was good that it had no watermark, but it was very obviously discoloured, so I have absolutely no clue why you'd use it. —MakeShift (talk page) 08:58, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

Say it like what? "And? Not about the actual species, don't add again." If you knew you shouldn't have added it, you shouldn't have added it. How am I being a jerk by questioning your reasoning for adding it, then explaining, and then telling you not to add it again? Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 05:14, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

So? I don't need to be an admin to tell you not to add something. I'm a respected community member, and the reason MakeShift or TimeShade take my side, is because I do things as they would, and I'm in the right. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 05:23, September 6, 2015 (UTC)
I think it's in your head that he said it that way. All nep did was explain what that page was for.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 05:29, September 6, 2015 (UTC)
Imperiex, all you ever seem to think is that everyone's attacking you, just because you've been blocked before doesn't mean everyone hates you, honestly it's because you make a lot of redundant edits and once they get reverted with an appropriate reason you assume we're attacking you, which we're not, all we're doing is giving you constructive criticism but you never read it like that. You need to start reading it that way, else you'll get blocked again for abusing editors or constant redundant edits. Wraiyf You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back. 05:39, September 6, 2015 (UTC)
Sup dude? =D Before you say the same sentence to me, yes, I'm well aware that I'm not an admin here lol. However, as a regular member of this community, and seeing that you seem to think all the admins have a beef with you for no apparent reason; let's try commoners to commoners talk. Edit summary are meant to be brief and to the point; there is a word count for it after all. Perhaps dropping the "And?" and adding a "Please" would have been more to your liking, but the gist of it is still "Not about the actual species, don't add again." Not everyone has the time to write a detailed explanation of a revert; try not taking it so personally, cuz I'm pretty sure if I did the same edit, I would be getting the same edit summary as you had.
Also, just curious; have you read this: ? If not, here's the introduction:
The Wikia Stars program is a global group of Wikia community members selected for their leadership in collaboration and creation within their individual communities. They are experts at creating, building and managing their communities, and through the Stars program, they extend their knowledge to help others grow your communities. Wikia Stars will be invited to collaborate across Wikia, on vertical hubs, Community Central or on the corporate site. They may be invited to events, demo programs and participate in relevant press opportunities.
Stars are chosen and recognized by Wikia Staff; they got their positions because they know what they are doing and Wikia approves the ways they do stuff. Why edit a wiki? Unless someone is there to intentionally do harm and vandalize it, generally every editor wishes to improve and make the wiki better. You can actually disregard the Star stuff for a split second; what are Talk pages for? Discussions, on how to make articles more accurate and informative; and when there's a dispute? Talk about it, and then at one point, the "don't do such and such" will probably come up. It has nothing to do with ownership, it's about getting one's opinion across the other user, firmly. But back to the point of being a Star, at least it holds some credibly; the word "respectfully" has been thrown around quite a bit, perhaps you can start by "treating people the way you want to be treated"? Going to other people's pages and write "You don't get to tell people what they can or cannot put places. You're not an admin" after calling the person a "jerk" twice, hardly sounds like you respect the person at all, does it? So how do you expect people to show you the courtesy in return, when you did not exactly set up a good example? Think about those stuff first before picturing everyone blindingly attacking you. If you have a problem with that, just imagine every sentence everyone else say to you, ends with smiley face =D or lol. =P Good luck!
--Sammm✦✧(talk) 08:05, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

RE: The Flash season two premiere is almost here!!

Yep, super keen! Can't believe it's less than a month, it's gonna be absolutely crazy! —MakeShift (talk page) 08:51, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Please unlock the seasons page

I've told you this before, they were locked because of edit wars, people will likely still keep changing the link for Tom's character.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 19:55, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Blocking people right off the bat isn't really the right thing to do (Unless it's blatant vandalism or the same person keep changing things back). I guess I'll lower the protection to registered users only but if multiple users start doing so again, I'll have no choice but to lock it again.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 23:14, September 9, 2015 (UTC)


I honestly think he's gonna be a brand new character, kind of similar to the Black Flash (though obviously not filling the "Death" role, just in that monster-y sort of way). Mind you, I wouldn't put it past the writers to make him Earth-2 Barry, cause that'd make for an emotional conclusion. —MakeShift (talk page) 08:49, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

I kind of just think it brings originality to the show, cause I mean it's all good and well to take aspects from the comics, but content that's both original and good is what you want. Oh, also check out the message I left you on Smallville Wiki! —MakeShift (talk page) 08:56, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

So for the sake of being civil, and seeing as we're going to have to work with each other around Wikia, I'd like to make peace between the two of us. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 09:07, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

Great! Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 09:14, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I just saw it and completely forgot to reply to it cause I was going to bed! I'm not sure I can really pin down a favourite episode, I just loved the entire plot of the season! I think it was masterfully done, as it could have gone horribly wrong, but they somehow did the canon, fans and plot justice! In regards to the Reverse-Flash though, I don't really know in specifics, I'm not really so learned on those measurements of speed. But I'd argue he should move (at least, in the comics anyway, perhaps not the show) doubly as fast as Barry, who's significantly faster than a bullet, so that's probably a good indicator. —MakeShift (talk page) 13:14, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

Trick arrows

Such arrows are listed here.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:43, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Renaming images

Next time, it would be better if you just ask one of us admins to rename the photo, rather than uploading a new one.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:23, September 23, 2015 (UTC)


Quit complaining. You reverted that poster for absolutely no reason. The image you reverted was a good image, and you reverted it to a smaller one, thus with less detail. Why?! Our images generally aren't reverted because we don't upload unless we know for sure that they're good quality, otherwise we just don't. If you're going to whine and refuse to understand the obvious, then that's not my problem. We've tried to explain it. —MakeShift (talk page) 16:29, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

They don't mean aesthetically lol. They mean he'll resemble RF, as another evil speedster villain for Barry. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 22:15, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Eddie Slick.... - um, who is that?

This.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 22:20, October 2, 2015 (UTC)


You clearly don't get the concept of editing. If something is worded badly, you reword it. I'm allowed to patrol the RecentChanged, because a) I'm an editor and b) I'm an administrator. I try my best to make pages as full of positive content as possible, so if you're not a fan of that then you can piss off and quit being a plain dick, especially if you're sick of seeing the RecentChanges feed "clogged with" my "green username". We've all put up with your bullshit for long enough, if you don't like how we edit, or if you refuse to actually be a decent editor, then leave. We've had countless reasons to ban you, but we're big on second chances, cause who doesn't like nice guys like that? Revert my edits without a great reason and you'll be blocked. Administrators generally don't edit without good intention, so if you're against it then you're deconstructively editing, plain and simple. —MakeShift (talk page) 07:06, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Imperiex, honestly, you need to pull that pole out of your ***, it's absolutely **** how you treat everyone on this wikia, you try to dictate, when you have no right to. If you start getting narky again, you will be reprimanded. Wraiyf You never know when life will hit you hard, but then you hit it back. 07:23, October 14, 2015 (UTC)


Though we haven't got much of him, I like him already. Defs looks more intimidating and more formidable. For who he is, I hope it isn't an alternate character of who we know but someone who would still give a WTF moment when identity is revealed.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 00:53, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Enter Zoom

I'm sure it'll be great but probably not as intense as it isn't he mid season finale.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 22:52, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Zoom gets his powers from the Speed-Force

Doesn't matter, we never assume stuff.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 23:16, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

Pretty sure if that's the point, they'll say it somewhere on the season. If it isn't, this topic can be discussed after the finale.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 23:45, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

I hope you realize that if Cisco hadn't had shot Zoom, Barry would be dead. Neptune - Everything's impossible until somebody does it. 04:01, November 14, 2015 (UTC)

Apology Long Overdue

So, Lorena (OJOLara) told me that'd she'd talk to you recently and that got me thinking about what I did to you, her and your friends years ago. She has no idea I'm doing this, but it needs to be done anyway. I am sorry. What I did was inexcusable and heinous. When I try to come up with reasons for what I did, all the reasons are petty. I was a petty person. Lorena and I met over some guy. The guy picked her, which pissed me off, so I tried to hurt her anyway I could. I stalked Lorena online and when I saw what Danny was doing to you guys, I thought I would do the same because it seemed fun as well as the best way to hurt her. But it wasn't fun, not for me and not for you or your friends. What I did was bully you all and it was unfair and unjustified. It's a desicion that to this day still leaves me unable to sleep at night at times. You have no right to forgive me, espicially due to the outcome of what me, Danny and Proto did to you all. But even if you don't forgive me, I still owe you an apology. It can't and probably won't ever make up for what I did to you, and I shouldn't except it to, but that doesn't mean I don't regret what did you those years ago. I'm sorry. - Sharona.StanaKabana (talk) 17:50, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Wow, really?

It's the exact same picture except lightning is in a different position. Absolutely no reason to replace a picture like that.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 19:39, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

RE:What are you thinking of season two so far?

I like it better than last seasons first half so far, obviously no where near as good as the back half of season 1. We haven't got much Zoom yet but I already like him better, Tony Todd kills it with the voice.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 21:08, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

Zoom's lair

Do you not have a better quality episode? My version of the episode I have open has much better quality.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 03:29, November 27, 2015 (UTC)

I think it's mostly his voice naturally and maybe just some minor edits to it. Tony Todd is famous for his voice.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 04:13, November 27, 2015 (UTC)


It's understandable when you do 2 or 3 edits in a short period of time but the amount you did in that period of time on Vandal Savage's page does get ridiculous. Just future reference, please try to keep them in less amounts of edits.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 04:49, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Central City's bar

You sure the one Wells went to is the same from "Crazy For You"? In the one Wells went to, you can see in the background there are stairs. In Crazy For You, it's just a 1 floor building.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 22:58, December 4, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Running to Stand Still

Why are you so intetested in the episide again? Thought you were 100% done no matter what. Also, the speed dampening serum maybe just took a while to kick in as some still got into his system. I also wont be surprised if Zoom ends up killing Weather Wizard (and maybe Trickster also), saying "The Flash is mine". TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 18:51, December 7, 2015 (UTC)

That's coming from someone who went all out to say Zoom will be defeated in episode 6.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 20:00, December 8, 2015 (UTC)
Trickster, they could use the son in the future because Hamill will probably be too expensive. Also, don't you dare talk to me in a demanding tone.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 20:15, December 8, 2015 (UTC)

In-universe writing

Remember to write in-universe. Don't say something happened in this episode. Say when exactly it happened.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 23:31, July 16, 2016 (UTC)


I can't unfortunately, due to people constantly calling him Black Flash. Never established he's taking that name on the show.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 00:15, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

=Image categorization

Don't forget to categorize images based on which characters are in a photo.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 17:56, July 21, 2016 (UTC)


Donnt forget to make sure your images are high quality, some of the ones you uploaded aren't. Also, make sure there are no black bars, especially really thick ones like in this image.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 20:21, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Unlocking Zoom

No means no. It's locked for a reason and I'm not unlocking it for a user whose block got lifted recently. Any edits you'd like to see done, leave it on Hunter's talk page and an admin will take care of it.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 04:05, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

Mirror Master

Hi, why did you undo my edits on the season 3 page? I understand it messed up one of the info boxes, but my sources were correct and I had them in the right place. #RenewYoungJustice (talk) 02:12, August 11, 2016 (UTC)

I understand it messed up the template, but that could've been fixed. Scudder is obviously an undercover name for Mirror Master. #RenewYoungJustice (talk) 02:18, August 11, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Pictures

Are you serious? "Don't upload good quality pictures" is basically what you're saying. I'm not even going to bother replying to that. —MakeShift (talk page) 05:45, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

We want to make this wiki as good as possible, so we don't want "kinda bad", we want "good". Deal with it and cry somewhere else. —MakeShift (talk page) 06:30, August 12, 2016 (UTC)


I'm posting this here, as this is kinda off topic to the original post on the talk page. You've had recently still uploaded stretched images when our policies state no stretched images. We've also told you numerous times not to add those.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 06:03, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Title of episode seven of season three

You can actually see through to the second page, where the heading says "Killer Frost"! Not immediately noticeable, I'll admit. —MakeShift (talk page) 07:48, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Looking forward to season three?

Yea, quite honestly, that's the only show in the Arrowverse I'm excited about this season. Also, I had unlocked the season 3 page earlier, so if there's stuff to be added, you can go ahead.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:13, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Speculative edits

Seriously, stop. You're this close to getting banned again, just stop. Make good edits, not speculative edits that clearly just show your disdain for Zoom and god knows what other characters. —MakeShift (talk page) 03:50, September 28, 2016 (UTC)


Guess you forgot that whole he went faster than Barry thing, also the only evidence is that his legs move at the same rate, never said anything about his arms and you are speculating with the whole "the go the same speeds because x" thing as they clearly don't.

Why do you ignore the evidence?

We have seen, repeatedly, that things such as the Velocity Serums and Tachyon devices alter the top speed of those that use them, from statements said by the characters to tests they performed.

You are clinging to the one sentence in the face of an avalanche of events and statements that say the exact opposite and seem to just be doing it for the attention it gets you.

You need to stop.

Also, "That's what they said on the show." Is a useless argument as they specifically said the exact opposite throughout Season 2.

Kaestal (talk) 01:25, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Make your case to admin. 01:27, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Your "evidence" is entirely ignoring the mountain of facts we have seen that prove otherwise. Caitlin isn't an expert in the speed force.

The moment Barry put on that Tachyon device he went Mach 14.2 as opposed to Mach 3.3. What would you call that?

Eliza went from a normal human to moving somewhere between Mach 2.2 and 3.3, before moving far beyond that because of the Velocity Serums.

Zoom also got faster from absorbing Barry's speed force energy.

You are wrong, that is why the admins don't ok your changes. Accept it and move on with your life, and stop making us have to clean up your vandalism.

Kaestal (talk) 01:36, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Also your "It's canon that the serums and device do nothing" is laughable.

Watch the show, the one where it is shown and commented on by that very same person that the enhancements do something.

Kaestal (talk) 01:39, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

So you're just going to ignore her saying later on that the Tachyon device did, in fact, make Barry faster?

Also, that is your headcanon, the technique bit. Caitlin said that their feet were somehow spending less time on the ground, not that their arms didn't move faster than Barry's or that they could exert less force than him.

She ONLY said their feet spend less time on the ground. So you are in fact adding fan canon to the pages with anything except that.

Plus, you are still ignoring all the evidence supporting that the Tachyon devices and Speed Serums make them faster, stop doing that.

Kaestal (talk) 01:45, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Put the page back!

See Prescott Sawmill. It has already been made when the episode first aired.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 03:36, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

===Flashpoint timeline===
[[Barry]] and [[Wally West|Wally]] discover this mill, which seems to be [[The Rival]]'s hideout.
Here, the Rival reveals himself to be Edward Clariss. After a brief banter, Wally gets cocky, 
goes against the plan, and engages the Rival in combat. Wally proves to be much too quick for the
Rival, but when he turns his back, the Rival stabs him with a pole. The Rival says that him and
Barry could be rivals, and that if Barry defeats him, he'll let Barry get Wally help. Unlike
Wally, Barry actually struggles to beat him. When he finally gets him on the ground, he stumbles
to the ground, as he starts to forget all the abilities he has learned. The Rival prepares to
finish Barry off by creating two tornadoes, but [[Iris West|Iris]] encourages Barry, and he's
able to unravel both of them, and deals the Rival a heavy blow. The Rival, then, acknowledges
that Barry is the fastest man alive. With his remaining strength, the Rival gets back up and
prepares to attack Barry from behind, but [[Joe West|Joe]] arrives and shoots him. Then Barry and
Joe go check on Wally.<ref name="Flashpoint">{{Ep|Flashpoint}}</ref>

===Reset timeline===
In the reset timeline, Barry super speeds to the mill, and finds that the Rival is there. Barry
is prepared to just take the Rival down, one-on-one, but the Rival notes that he brought a
sidekick, who is [[Dr. Alchemy]]. He steps out of the shadows, and after introducing himself, he
shoots a blue beam of energy at Barry using a special stone. He tells Barry that he is preparing
the Earth. Then, the Rival jumps in on the fight, and pins Barry against a post. He stabs Barry
with his own earpieces so that he can't communicate with his team, and then they battle. They
fight for a little bit, but the Rival gets the upper-hand. The Rial says it's time for him to
find a new rival, and right before the Rival finishes Barry off, [[Vibe]] shows up and blasts him
back. Then the Flash spins, to put more power into his attack, and then punches the Rival to
Vibe, Vibe shoots a blast at him, sending him back to Barry, then Barry accumulates a lot power
into his fist and knocks the Rival out.<ref name="Paradox">{{Ep|Paradox}}</ref>

TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 04:03, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

That's really not how things work. You can't just overhaul pages because you think your wording is better, especially when your tense breaks policies. You can add to what other people wrote but a complete overhaul is wrong, other people worked hard also.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 04:23, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

Lightning Coloration

Just curious if you intend to change the pictures of the red and yellow lightning colors as well, otherwise the, I guess you could call it the theme of the pictures would be off.

One of these things is not like the others and the such.

Kaestal (talk) 08:13, October 30, 2016 (UTC)


Kaestal (talk) 08:21, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Please unlock the Zoom page

You have no idea why the page is locked, so don't tell me it shouldn't still be locked. It's locked because people keep calling him Black Flash when he wasn't named as that on the show yet.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:47, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

You have no idea how many times we thought stuff like that but people keep adding such info.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 01:55, October 31, 2016 (UTC)


So it's wrong when an admin re-words something but totally ok for any other use to do that? You're also one to talk, completely rewording an article that follows policies to one that violates policies.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 19:24, November 17, 2016 (UTC)

RE: They pretty much revealed Alchemy's identity in "Killer Frost," so why did Berlanti say that Alchemy's identity would be revealed in episode nine?

Believe it or not, I'm a member of the writing staff and can answer every single one of your unreasonable questions. And good god, learn to make smaller headlines. Don't put an entire paragraph. —MakeShift (talk page) 05:07, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

We all treat you with as much civility as we can, but then you constantly go out and make outlandish claims, often attacking users in the process, so apologies if I and any others are a bit sick of it. As for your question: use your common sense. We didn't see him physically wearing the suit, so there's clearly something more to the Alchemy mystery, which will be revealed and/or confirmed in episode nine. —MakeShift (talk page) 07:35, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Spoiler policy

You've been here how long? You should know this by now.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 18:41, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Wally's Speed

H..R. said that at this point in Wally's training he is faster than Barry. He meant that at that point in his training he was faster than Barry was when he was at that point in training. Not that he was faster than current Barry.Rafe Adler (talk) 14:19, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

I agree what Rafe said. Please stop re-adding that line to his powers, it's misleading to readers and annoying to the other editors that have to clean it up. OmegaWulfgar (talk) 19:57, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

I cannot stress this enough. Please listen to information clearly and not add bias as you so often do. OmegaWulfgar took the words right out of my mouth; it's tiring to have to keep removing false content because users think they're right. —MakeShift (talk page) 13:12, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

Just Stop

As an experienced wiki member and just a generally mature human being, I urge you to stop your childish and ignorant actions on this wiki. No one on this wiki wanted to antagonize you because they felt like it, only because you're continually giving us reasons to despise you by outright flaunting your ignorance and lack of maturity. You also can't get over the fact that every other person percieved the conversation between Wally and H.R a different way than you did and you're still trying to prove that you're correct, 5 days later. I'm not writing on your talk page to attack you, simply stating facts and telling you to stop. The only other course of action is to contact the administrators of this wiki to issue you a block. Good day. OmegaWulfgar (talk) 04:53, December 12, 2016 (UTC)

8:00 pm

Meet me and nobody in the chat at 8:00 pm tonight Gifist8 (talk) 21:29, December 13, 2016 (UTC)


We don't have much to discuss, you removed trivia/behind the scenes information and then added some. You shouldn't remove any information about the comics or show unless it is directly contradicted by the source material.Kaestal (talk) 15:56, December 15, 2016 (UTC)


What's up Riex? How have you been? Chat me up sometime!!OJOLara (talk) 22:54, December 19, 2016 (UTC)

Meet us in chat right now Gifist8 (talk) 20:31, December 23, 2016 (UTC)

Opinion in Articles

You really need to stop adding your opinion into any page except blog posts or that kind of thing, which includes things like randomly adding a comparison to Zoom in Savitar's character page.

With your record, it's obvious why you did that, and you shouldn't, ever.

Kaestal (talk) 06:45, December 30, 2016 (UTC)

Why put it at all? Or just add every single other speedster who was faster than Flash at some point, instead you singled out the person you are on record talking smack about for about a year.

Kaestal (talk) 06:50, December 30, 2016 (UTC)

Why so rude?

Why are you so rude to people?LamaraGirl (talk) 18:47, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

I think you should be a lot nicer.LamaraGirl (talk) 18:48, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not Proto. I just wanted to screw with your friend. I thought it would be funny to bring up your old drama, because my god was there a lot of it. But, I'll back off. No reason to start trouble over a minor tiff.LamaraGirl (talk) 02:55, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

Stop changing the speed force page

Can you please stop changing the speed force page? We don't want it to get locked and that's the last thing anyone wants to happen Gifist8 (talk) 01:19, January 4, 2017 (UTC)


So this LamaraGirl told me that she would stop. Hopefully this is the last we see of her. I'll admit I don't think it was a coincidence she just happened to decide to bother us the day after I warned you of her, but that doesn;t matter right now. Do not confront her. Do not speak to her. Unless she has provoked you of course. I just don't wanna see you get into trouble. Also, you were kind of unfair to Rafe, as he didn't know of our torrid past and didn't have much to gleam from her seemingly innocuous comment. If she bothers you again, let me know immediately and I will make sure she is blocked globally. For now, however, let's just leave her alone. Okay big guy?OJOLara (talk) 03:31, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

Honestly, I'm just trying to be impartial, 'cause you're my friend and I don't know the full situation. As long as your on, wanna go on chat?OJOLara (talk) 03:49, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

Don't worry, i just wanted to finish the work i've started. Now it's over. If there's another way to categorize the pages by the way, please, tell me.Oilgof (talk) 20:17, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Question

Your very phrasing of Barry being "one of the weakest most pathetic characters" incites an argument, you have literally no argument other than vague arguments. You also don't seem to understand how fiction works. Authors tend to write characters in such a way that it fits the story; if they need a character to be overpowered for a good plot, then they'll do that. I'm not sure whether maybe you have autism or whether you're just stubborn as hell, but it's as simple as that. There's not always some grand scheme to things, being beaten by one bad guy does not mean that Barry or any other character is the "weakest most pathetic character", it's purely for plot value. —MakeShift (talk page) 00:54, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

I honestly cannot say anything more to reply to what you're saying. You're blatantly ignoring what I've just said in order to adjust to your own fantastical ideas. Like I said, you're either autistic (and no, that's not intended to be an insult, why would it be?) or stubborn as all hell and based on history, just plain rude. —MakeShift (talk page) 01:10, January 5, 2017 (UTC)
Because maybe Wally didn't want to be a part of the Justice League? Because he was still a speedster? Because maybe they don't pick the best, they pick people who are still qualified? Good god, please use your brain for once. —MakeShift (talk page) 01:19, January 5, 2017 (UTC)
It's as if you just live to ignore people and irritate them. —MakeShift (talk page) 01:29, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Barry Allen

Barry has skill and defiantly has enough skill to be on the JL and you think he's pathetic... Let me list some of his Accomplishments

1: Sacficing his life to save other lives

2: Getting Wally out of the speed force

3: Stopping Zoom

And many more

So keep having this bias towards Wally, Barry Allen is overall more known then Wally ( Not saying that Wally is bad ) Remember this is last time I will say this next time I'm telling a admin to issue a block Gifist8 (talk) 14:25, January 5, 2017 (UTC)


Please, learn from this. I never wanted to do this, but you have been bothering not just me, but others. Please, grow up. I want to see you be a better person.

Nobody700 (talk)

Re: Stop It

Youtube is not a very credible source on this topic. Also if Wally was faster than Barry was at that point in his training they would still celebrate. That would be a milestone meaning that Wally is advancing faster than Barry did.Rafe Adler (talk) 05:50, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

RE:Infobox images

No one replaced them with stretched images. Might just be a bug which happens sometimes.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 09:34, January 18, 2017 (UTC)

You really don't learn...

And also don't recall what Savitar said, he specifically named Barry as the one who beat him and the actual threat to his power, not Wally.

You don't have a good track record with your "predictions" about characters and are unable to look past your quite frankly ridiculous hatred of them when observing their actions and cannot properly judge how powerful they are or how popular they are.

Whereas others see that scene in the promo where Barry and Wally ran after something, with Wally rushing in and Barry instantly following him and most likely keeping pace with ease you see it as Barry "sleeping on the job"

I guess you've never had to run after someone when they suddenly decide to start sprinting.

And you again don't realize that the wording of what H.R said meant that Wally is faster than Barry was at the same time of training, AKA, 2 weeks at best.

Of course, you won't actually remember any of this after two seconds, so don't reply

Kaestal (talk) 13:34, January 21, 2017 (UTC)


I'm not sure if you watch Legends of Tomorrow but Eobard Thawne is one of the main antagonists in the second season. Thus, Stein explained he does have chronokinesis in the episode Outlaw Country "The energy of the Speed Force grants the Speedster Chronokinesis, temporal manipulation.". This was used in the context of how Eobard helped Damien Darhk escape.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 21:27, January 21, 2017 (UTC)

Here's something from Footspeed on wikipedia

It should clear up any misconceptions you have about what Caitlin said.

Though good running form is useful in increasing speed, fast and slow runners have been shown to move their legs at nearly the same rate – it is the force exerted by the leg on the ground that separates fast sprinters from slow. Top short-distance runners exert as much as four times their body weight in pressure on the running surface. For this reason, muscle mass in the legs, relative to total body weight, is a key factor in maximizing footspeed.

Also, do note that moving your legs and moving your arms are not transferable properties, I cannot, for example, do a running handstand as fast as I can run normally.

Hey you!

Hey big guy! Thought I'd drop in and say hi, how are you? Anything new going on? What did you think the Supernatural S12 finale (I personally disliked that Castiel, Crowley, Rowena and Mary were thrown away so casually, but am glad Lucifer is finally off the show.) Anyway, just wanted see you were doing. Maybe we can chat later?OJOLara (talk) 18:29, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Wow, is July all ready? I'm so impatient for the next seasons on all the Arrowverse shows. Though Arrow S5's ending irked me a bit. Oh yeah, I totally believe all the main characters sans Oliver and his son are dead. Sarcasm aside, how are you? Haven't heard from you in a while (though it probably doesn't help that don't frequent wikia using my account as much as I'd like. LOL) Chat later, hopefully? :)OJOLara (talk) 17:00, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

Open for a bit chatting, maybe?;)OJOLara (talk) 02:12, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

Welcome Back

Welcome Back! Hope you still wanna be here!

Nobody700 (talk) 04:09, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

I wish you a welcome back too seed! I am Vengance, I am the night, I AM BATMAN- Gifist8 (talk) 13:52, July 22, 2017 (UTC)


Come and join us on discordI am Vengance, I am the night, I AM BATMAN- Gifist8 (talk) 01:40, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

Chat me up?

It's been a loooong while since we last spoke. Wanna meet me on private chat?OJOLara (talk) 22:35, August 13, 2017 (UTC)


There is really no use for it, we don't list stuff like that for any other character. You've expressed your hate for Caitlin numerous times, so coming from you, it definitely seems like a biased comment.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 09:57, December 18, 2017 (UTC)

This isn't the first time you've done stuff like this. Also, like I said, we don't do this for other characters in the first place.TIMESHADE @fandom |Talk/Wall| - |C| 10:14, December 18, 2017 (UTC)

No offense, but are you forgetting that she joined Savitar right after she found out that he is Barry? And that in Killer Frost, it was almost killing Barry that made her go back to normal. Or that in 2x18 she begged Hunter to let him go. Or that in 1x10 she said to Mick do whatever you want to me, but leave him alone. (Ninja72 (talk) 22:06, December 23, 2017 (UTC))

In seasons 3-4, she has shown that she doesn't like him. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:40 PM, December 23rd, 2017

Dude, are we even on the same show? If Caitlin did not like him, she would have been like "No way I am joining you, Barry. Leave me alone", when Savitar showed her, who he is.Ninja72 (talk) 11:12, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

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